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PostPosted: Thu Dec 28, 2006 8:46 pm
by ZK-Brock
Hi guys. I finished work today so I decided to bike down to Nelson Airport to do some spotting. I came home, got my stuff together and nicked off with dads bike so I could get there. When I arrived I found the airport with not much traffic, but with some good stuff sitting on the ground.

When I first arrived, I went up straight through the roundabout to the Nelson Helicopters area. There I saw this Saab:
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It is now unpainted, and is probably nearing readiness for its final departure. We'll miss you NLN!

After I snapped a few of this Saab, a white van rolled up and parked in the carpark next to my bike. "Another one for the chop eh?" he said. His name was Milburn, an aircraft enthusiast. He was probably in his late 40s. He told me about his brother, wayne, who works in Bristbane with a warbird company. His Brother flies the warbirds. His favourite is the Hawker Sea Fury. He told me of the propellor, and how it is 10 feet long! Thats amazing. This guy I was talking to started flight training at Nelson Aeroclub in a Tomahawk, to get over his fear of light aircraft. After 5 hours he quit because he had no need to go any further.

He told me about all the aircraft he saw, including a particularly amazing German Machine. It could take off in only a few metres (20?). In one air show, it took off, flew above the runway at a few 10s of feet, and did an amazing U-turn while still above the runway! He also told me about the Sea Fury that his brother flies. During takeoff, to keep it on the runway you need to have full right aileron and rudder!!!!!! That's how powerful it is. He also told me about a guy down on the west coast who owns a historic italian aircraft collection, though I forgot the name. If anyone could help me out...? I think it starts with S.

He also told me about how there are no young pilots buying warbirds these days... I'm not surprised when a P-51 Mustand can cost up to 4 Million!!!!! :lol: :lol:

At that stage, I spied a strange turboprop leaving the Nelson Apron. It was bigger than a dash, but it had the Pacific wave on its fuselage. An ATR 72!!!! Holy moly, I thought, what was an ATR doing here? I rushed out from behind the unpainted saab and snapped 2 pics:
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ZK-MCX rotates

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MCX climbs away, folding its gear up.

He also told me a story about him and his brother, building an aeroplane for an Italian man of few words called Gimli or something. Anyway, they built this light aircraft for him, and on the first test flight, the little italian man said, "you fly it, I do the undercarriage". So anyway they flew the circuit quite happily, and they came in to land. SSSSSCREEEEECHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!! :lol: "Sorry, I forgot to put down the undercarriage", he said in a soft, low voice. :lol: :lol: :lol:

I turned on my scanner at this point to hear "cleared to land, ETU". I looked down the runway to see ETU, the first aircraft I trained in, trundling down the runway. I snapped a pic:
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After this we parted ways, east a little way so I could get to the terminal. On the way I took these:
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Wilga PZN, this crazy european aircraft has been sitting on the GA parking for many weeks.

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Tango Golf India, a 172. Hopefully someone could make a repaint out of this? Jon? Hinch? It wouldnt be that hard to do.

I arrived at the terminal building, and immediately spied the airport staff parking area, perfect for this shot:
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2 Dash 8-Q300s on the ground outside the Passenger terminal.

I then sifted over to the fence across from the big Air Nelson Hangar:
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Fletcher DZC, parked near the Air Nelson Hangar.

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A Dash, NEO, parked up in the hangar for maintenance.

After I took these photos I got the feeling I wasn't s'posed to be in the staff parking (an air nelson hostess was giving me mean looks :o ), so I headed southeast to get onto the perimeter path, which would give me great closeups.

I got there and a big blue sign said: NO CYCLISTS <_<

What a bitching rule, I thought. But not wanting to anger any more Airport staff, I instead crossed a small stream to find another shooting location. I found a small clearing not too far from the threshold, good for spotting:
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A Saab 340B crossing the threshold for landing

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The saab touching down.

I then moved around further, to a small residential peninsular called Monaco. The aircraft approach right over here. I found a small reserve with picnic table to get set up on. A saab was performing a VOR/DME approach, so I captured it on video, which I will post later. I then headed back to the airport for some GA shots:
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A close-up of ETU, right outside the Aeroclub Hangar.

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An Origin J-31 parked outside Horizon Air Support.

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The Club C206, SKT

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A Vincent Aviation Light Twin.

Hope you enjoyed the shots, I enjoyed my day!


B) B) B)

Brock

PostPosted: Thu Dec 28, 2006 8:56 pm
by brownbox
nicely done mate... :clap: :thumbup:

PostPosted: Thu Dec 28, 2006 9:19 pm
by Ian Warren
Brock Great pic's That Jetstream looks like it needs a home :(

PostPosted: Thu Dec 28, 2006 9:27 pm
by ZK-Brock
Yeah too right Ian, I can imagine that grass underneath the aircraft getting longer and longer :lol:

PostPosted: Thu Dec 28, 2006 9:30 pm
by Alex
Very nice pics there, I like the first one the best. :D

Alex

PostPosted: Thu Dec 28, 2006 10:14 pm
by ardypilot
Nice shots Brock- you already know that though cos I told you on MSN before ;)

I wonder where NLN is going, and why it is being sold? I find this strange as Air Nelson have just purchased a new Saab 240(ZK-NLM) from Regional Air Express in Australia...

PostPosted: Fri Dec 29, 2006 4:48 pm
by ZK-Brock
Here is a map of Nelson Airport and its known spotting locations:
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The Red dots on the east side are in between the General Aviation hangars such as Nelson Aeroclub, Horizon, Skytech etc. This is where I got the close-up of ZK-ETU, ZK-VAD, ZK-SKT and the Origin J-31.

The Yellow dots are next to the Helicopters NZ hangar. This is where I met Milburn, and took the picture of the unpainted Saab. The north-most dot is in the Helicopters NZ carpark, where you can get some great shots of the aircraft taxiing, especially if 02 is in use.

The green dots are in the Staff Carpark. From the southern dot you get good close-ups of turboprops on the Apron, and from the north dot you can get a look at any aircraft parked near the Air Nelson Hangar.

The Pink dot is accessed by crossing a strangely-shaped bridge and going down a paved jogging track for a few minutes. When you reach a curving left bend, continue straight towards the airport threshold, where you'll find a small gorse clearing, cig butts and dumped rubbish. I got the shots of a Saab crossing the threshold and flaring here.

The blue dot is accessed by a a street called Martin Pl, as soon as you get onto the residential penisnula (called monaco). You go right up Martin Pl, and you can sneak onto a patch of grass right by someones back yard (but watch out for the prickly bush, it got me in the arm real good :angry: ! Some would consider this spot on someones property, so if someone comes out and asks yout to leave, you'd probably better do it ;) !

Further along on this residential peninsular, you will find a playground/park with a few picnic tables. From here you can get another angle of aircraft approaching for runway 02. The picnic tables are comfy.

Some of you that study the picture might also note a walkway going right around the airport perimeter. This is for walkers/jogger only, so I couldnt ride my bike there. It would certainly have some good shots though, for both 02 and 20.

Brock >nzflag<

***Edit: Sorry the photo is so large, I tried reuploading it but it keeps displaying the big one,sorry. :unsure:

PostPosted: Fri Dec 29, 2006 6:52 pm
by ardypilot
Thanks Brock- adding a map with spotting locations seems to be the in thing at the moment! ;)

PostPosted: Fri Dec 29, 2006 8:51 pm
by ZK-Brock
Yeah man, just keeping up with the trends :D

I have another story to add, that the guy Milburn told me. In Australia, he was at his brother's Brisbane warbird base. As he arrived, a 4-seat highwing microlight landed and taxied up to them. The pilot killed the engine and jumped out. "Gday maaaate" said the pilot, a big old guy, middle age guy, beer can in hand. "No-one knows if he has a license or not", said his Brother to him :P . He invited the two brothers over to his aeroplane, much like a small 172, where he revealed his bed and a a portable gas cooker in the back! :lol: :lol: What a hard case awesome dude!

Also Trolly, come on MSN, I remember something relevant to what you were talking about last night. ;)

PostPosted: Fri Dec 29, 2006 9:05 pm
by Naki
Interesting shots Brock and one place in NZ I have not got to yet.

Andrew, I am not sure why Air Nelson are getting another Saab 340 when they are trading them all in for Q300s (20 on order or already delivered- 3 more ordered a couple of weeks ago) - where did you hear that?

Cheers

Paul

PostPosted: Sat Dec 30, 2006 6:55 am
by AlisterC
That path you aren't allowed to bike down has better spots than being out by Monaco ;)
Only metres from the runway at either end. I like sitting on the golf course end :D
WONDERFUL airport for spotting. :thumbup:
You should have just walked your bike around the track Brock ;)
Great shots, we'll done capturing an elusive ATR there!

PostPosted: Sat Dec 30, 2006 11:52 am
by ardypilot
where did you hear that?

Hi Paul, It is written on page 71 of this months Airliner World magazine.

PostPosted: Sat Dec 30, 2006 12:52 pm
by FlyingKiwi
The German STOL aircraft you referred to would be the Fieseler Fi-156 Storch, a WWII liaison aircraft; it does indeed have astounding takeoff performance and I've heard in a reasonable headwind you can actually fly it backwards relative to the ground!

PostPosted: Sat Dec 30, 2006 1:20 pm
by ZK-Brock
You're dead right FlyingKiwi, the storch is what it was.

PostPosted: Sat Dec 30, 2006 1:29 pm
by JonARNZ
Excellent pics, like Alex shot number 1 is my fave. The ATR was a good find, a real surprise as well. Something definately needs to be done for that J31 :(

PostPosted: Sat Dec 30, 2006 3:38 pm
by ZK-Brock
What about an NZFF syndicate! I would estimate to be worth roughly 800k (give or take a few hundred thousand :P ). If we all put in our pocket money we might come out with something, and we can fly it up and down the country! >nzflag<

PostPosted: Sat Dec 30, 2006 3:46 pm
by JonARNZ
monkeybdg wrote:What about an NZFF syndicate! I would estimate to be worth roughly 800k (give or take a few hundred thousand :P ). If we all put in our pocket money we might come out with something, and we can fly it up and down the country!  >nzflag<

By jove's monkeybdg, you might be onto something there. I pledge the first $5, yay me! :groupwave:

PostPosted: Sat Dec 30, 2006 4:48 pm
by ZK-Brock
Ok, I've done a little research. Bae Jetstreams for sale around the world can cost between $600,000 (basic, ex-airline) and $1,700000 NZD (corporate transport, super-avionics). In a 20-person syndicate, based on the J-31 costing $800k, we'll have to pay around 40,000 each - around the same cost of a CPL. Think you could sretch that fiver a little more Jon? ;)

PostPosted: Mon Jan 08, 2007 9:29 pm
by ZK-TJL
HEY!!!!!!!!!

Way to go............nice to see some shots from Nelson (Turbo prop city!!!!)

Cheers Boss :D

PostPosted: Mon Jan 08, 2007 10:24 pm
by Alex
If every member forks up $2700 we'll have that Jetstream in no time, and you can tell all your friends that you have a 300th share in an aircraft. :P

Alex