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PostPosted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 1:41 pm
by creator2003
I remember talk about a NZFF teamspeak channel what even came about that could it not work attached to the board ?
I would really like to see something like this attached to NZFF and would be happy to help in anyway getting it up and running ,i love the idea of chatting away and i do admin on VOZ so why not get it started over here it would be much better to see users in one place than all over the channels looking for each other ???

PostPosted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 2:49 pm
by creator2003
Ive just been looking into it and are still not 100% how to set up a account with them but i do know ive got $20 sitting here to help setup to buy a server space or something so for those how know how it works and how we get this going please posted here and explain what ill have to do to start up a TS channel for here ?
and ill try and get one up and going or something

PostPosted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 3:04 pm
by Njbb1995
Good idea! I might need to get a microphone though.
would it be on all the time?

PostPosted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 3:09 pm
by Yak52aholic
Yeah I reckon it's a great idea, if ya need any help with it or anything I'm keen biggrin.gif


njbb1995 wrote:
QUOTE (njbb1995 @ Jul 20 2008, 03:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
would it be on all the time?


I think it would just like normal TS servers.

PostPosted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 3:56 pm
by Mattnz
Good idea...I'm keen biggrin.gif

PostPosted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 4:17 pm
by creator2003
Yeah i think it would be a great advantage to NZFF and the community spirt here ..im still looking into it all and are will to pay more for the service if i have to but thats all i have on my paypal at the moment that i can donate to the cause ,this would put alittle banner i think on the forums somewhere saying how many people are on etc and server address ,i know this works well for the community over at VOZ and was talked about before between admins at some stage just it never ended up going anywhere ..
so id like to do something to get this going and if you can offer advice if you have done this before on how a no profit forums like ourself gets something like this going it would be great if you could share some knowlegde with us on how it all goes ,,ill be talking at somestage with jay over at voz and see how he has set up his but im not sure when ill be talking to him next yet ..

PostPosted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 4:40 pm
by ZK-MAT
In basic terms you have to have a server and a hosting plan, that gives you and others access to the server to install the program on (TS is easy to set up as a server) then you pay for traffic to and from the server, or pay 'per slot' per month.

One could set up a server at home on an old PC (I ran a TS server on a P133 system with 64 MB RAM) and use a no-ip address (no-ip.com allows an address like "nzff.no-ip.com" that will direct to your current IP address even when that changes, you run a dynamic update client to keep it working - it's all free) to connect but then it would be using that person's bandwidth. I can help with advice in this regard as I did it for a while but cannot now as my ISP doesn't allow direct external IP connect to my PCs (mine's like a big ethernet wireless connection).

OR you could rent a server with TS on it from someone like Gamers Net, but at the moment they are full up sad.gif Maybe Orcon could help?

OR, see if Inspire will consider passing on Admin or set up a new channel on their TS. Would help if someone in NZFF was an Inspire customer.

PostPosted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 4:51 pm
by Yak52aholic
As for the setting up a server-I'll have to check about the external IP access but I'm happy for my PC to be a server. wink.gif

PostPosted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 4:51 pm
by ZK-MAT
Just found this:

http://www.gamersonline.co.nz/services.htm

Teamspeak dedicated server (available now)

Entry-range server hosting - $6 per month (12 Slots)
Mid-range server hosting - $10 per month (24 slots)
High-range server hosting - $20 per month ( 50 Slots)

PostPosted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 5:15 pm
by creator2003
Whats a slot and id be looking at paying for server space rather than running it on a members pc so we are not user bandwith that way and we can connect to it no probs also to admin would it be ok using the NZFF name for the server seeing we are setting up for NZFF users ,really i cant see it being a prob as i was chatting with andrew about this and he was all keen at the time doing this sort of thing but we where trying to keep it on the nzff host that we already have and i think that was the problem ,like ive said ive got money to set it up well i think and 12$ or so a month anit bad for the good something like this could do for NZFF ..

PostPosted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 5:24 pm
by ZK-MAT
Mike, a slot is a space for someone to connect, so a 24 slot server could hold 24 people. I'd imagine that 24 would be the most you'd need. I'd agree that a company hosted server would be more reliable and offer less complication/more bandwidth.

edit: Just re-read your post regarding using the host that NZFF uses at the moment. The difference is Teampeak is an application that runs from a server, where as a forum serves up web pages, generally you pay more to be able to run the application on the server as it's more dynamic.

PostPosted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 5:33 pm
by creator2003
Ok well ill look into the links you dropped there for a server and see what the pricing is for 24 slots and ill get you some passwords and stuff if you keen and get you to help me set it up ,,just give me acouple of hours and ill see what i can do ,,
cheers

PostPosted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 5:38 pm
by creator2003
QUOTE
Just found this:

http://www.gamersonline.co.nz/services.htm

Teamspeak dedicated server (available now)

Entry-range server hosting - $6 per month (12 Slots)
Mid-range server hosting - $10 per month (24 slots)
High-range server hosting - $20 per month ( 50 Slots)[/quote]

cant even see where or how to pay for this one if im going to set one up ill need to be able to pay by paypal so ill look for some more ,looked like a good one though for 24 slots ..

PostPosted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 5:46 pm
by Adamski
Yak52aholic wrote:
QUOTE (Yak52aholic @ Jul 20 2008, 04:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
As for the setting up a server-I'll have to check about the external IP access but I'm happy for my PC to be a server. wink.gif


Even on a relatively good broadband connection, this just won't work well if you have more than three or four people on simultaneously, as *all* the traffic (in both directions) is forced down your connection. I've tried it, and you end up using very high compression CODECs - and we all sounded like Donald Duck!

You can get away with it (just) - but not if you want to do anything online yourself (eg. FS multiplayer) which is often the whole point of using Teamspeak winkyy.gif

I have loads of server space available - but it's shared *web* hosting. I'm not too sure that they'd let me run other applications. These days, most server providers are paranoid about security so they tend to control everything and only allow customers limited access - usually by Control Panels etc. (whose overall privileges they can control).

As far as I remember from my IL-2/PCF online days, the people at Inspire were really friendly and helpful. They may welcome NZFF as a group - and be delighted to set up a dedicated channel for us.

PostPosted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 5:48 pm
by ZK-MAT
creator2003 wrote:
QUOTE (creator2003 @ Jul 20 2008, 05:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
cant even see where or how to pay for this one if im going to set one up ill need to be able to pay by paypal so ill look for some more ,looked like a good one though for 24 slots ..



Contact Us Gamers Online Limited

Email:
admin@gamersonline.co.nz


Try that Mike

Adamski wrote:
QUOTE (Adamski @ Jul 20 2008, 05:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
As far as I remember from my IL-2/PCF online days, the people at Inspire were really friendly and helpful. They may welcome NZFF as a group - and be delighted to set up a dedicated channel for us.



+1 The Inspire guys are well thought of and will try to help where they can. Try inspire.net.nz perhaps?

PostPosted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 5:53 pm
by creator2003
http://flexihostings.co.nz/teamspeak_hosting.html well i found this one that looks ok and can just set it up for 1 month as a trial bases to see if its going to be used enough ,so i will buy this now and see how we go if you guys dont come up with anything else cheaper in the next hour or so ,but im happy to get it going for the first month or so then we can see the stats and see what funding we will need in the future etc but i really do think its would be nicer to have a NZFF one and not using others all the time where people just get lost and i think we can get a little banner etc ..
so about a hour and then ill buy if there is no hassle that i dont see and you guys point out ...
trolly i see you are on now what ya think dude ?

PostPosted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 5:59 pm
by ZK-MAT
Nice find, Mike!

PostPosted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 6:05 pm
by Adamski
creator2003 wrote:
QUOTE (creator2003 @ Jul 20 2008, 05:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
http://flexihostings.co.nz/teamspeak_hosting.html well i found this one that looks ok and can just set it up for 1 month as a trial bases to see if its going to be used enough ,so i will buy this now and see how we go if you guys dont come up with anything else cheaper in the next hour or so ,but im happy to get it going for the first month or so then we can see the stats and see what funding we will need in the future etc but i really do think its would be nicer to have a NZFF one and not using others all the time where people just get lost and i think we can get a little banner etc ..
so about a hour and then ill buy if there is no hassle that i dont see and you guys point out ...
trolly i see you are on now what ya think dude ?


Just looking at that page ... when it says "User Limit" does that mean total members/users or number of *simultaneous* users allowed?

PostPosted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 6:09 pm
by creator2003
QUOTE
Bandwidth limitation settings in order to adapt the client to your needs.[/quote] is the part you mean ,it does say unmetered above under plans and thats what i think im paying for with each slot ?

PostPosted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 6:33 pm
by Adamski
creator2003 wrote:
QUOTE (creator2003 @ Jul 20 2008, 06:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
is the part you mean ,it does say unmetered above under plans and thats what i think im paying for with each slot ?

That just means you won't be charged extra for the *total* traffic. However - I think you can tweak the TS server settings for total allowable bandwidth *at any one time* so that it automatically uses a lower resolution Codec if the [throughput] limit is approached.

I think the "User Limit" still needs to be explained though. I suspect that though you can set up as many *accounts* as you like, only (say) 15 of them are allowed on at any one time. This would make sense, as (say) 500 simultaneous users would consume massive amounts in traffic terms.