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PostPosted: Wed Feb 04, 2009 6:46 pm
by ctcav8r
Hi there,
I'm using FSX and have been for a while.
I'm just starting my flying training at Hamilton (CTC)
My aircraft for training is a Robin HR200 / (NZ) Alpha 160
I would love to have this aircraft to practise with in FSX.
I downloaded a FS2004 version (which seems to be the only one around) but the panels don't work.
Reading through other forums this is a common problem and not really one that can be solved.
When I load the aircraft - it doesn't have any panel or gauges at all.

Was wondering if anyone knew of/could help me find an FSX version?
Am very happy to pay for it if it is good quality.

Or is there anyone here that can create one or is in the process of?

PostPosted: Wed Feb 04, 2009 8:40 pm
by deeknow
ctcav8r wrote:
QUOTE (ctcav8r @ Feb 4 2009, 07:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
My aircraft for training is a Robin HR200 / (NZ) Alpha 160
I would love to have this aircraft to practise with in FSX.
I downloaded a FS2004 version (which seems to be the only one around) but the panels don't work.


Greetings. I take it you've found the repaint of the Waikato Aero club's ZK-WKF and the photorealistic panel. Coincidentally they're both by Me biggrin.gif I knocked them up for a cobber who's flying out there too.

Sorry but I cant help you with the FSX conversion of the panel as I've only got FS2004. It's most probably one or more of the gauges I've used on the panel. You may be able to edit the panel config to use gauges from other aircraft (ideally standard FSX ones). If you do sort it out let me know coz it would be great to push an updated panel to AVSim.

PostPosted: Thu Feb 05, 2009 9:33 am
by creator2003
QUOTE
// This Panel.cfg file created by FS Panel Studio panel editor utility - http://www.fspanelstudio.com
// Built Tuesday, May 31, 2005 at 19:54 FSPS Build:14852

[Window Titles]
Window00=Main
Window01=GPS


[VIEWS]
VIEW_FORWARD_WINDOWS=MAIN,GPS_PANEL

VIEW_FORWARD_DIR=2.000, 0.000, 0.000



//--------------------------------------------------------
[Window00]
file=main.bmp
file_1024=main.bmp
size_mm=1024
window_size_ratio=1.000
position=0
visible=1
ident=MAIN
window_size= 1.000, 1.000
window_pos= 0.000, 0.000

gauge00=Bendix_King_Radio!Bendix-King Radio AP, 807,519,200,49
gauge01=Bendix_King_Radio!Bendix-King Radio DME, 807,569,200,45
gauge02=Bendix_King_Radio!Bendix-King Radio Nav-Comm 1, 807,400,200,67
gauge03=Bendix_King_Radio!Bendix-King Radio Xpndr, 807,467,200,52
gauge04=Cessna172!Clock, 107,445,90,89
gauge05=Bendix_King_Radio!Bendix-King Radio ADF, 807,613,200,44
gauge06=Cessna!VOR1, 650,399,125,124
gauge07=Cessna!Altimeter, 515,397,130,129
gauge08=Mooney_Bravo!Attitude, 382,396,130,130
gauge09=cessna_182.directional_gyro, 376,529,140,136
gauge10=Mooney_Bravo!CHT, 429,681,83,82
gauge11=Mooney_Bravo!Manifold Pressure, 515,681,83,82
gauge12=Mooney_Bravo!Oil Temperature, 602,681,83,82
gauge13=Cessna208B_XML!suction, 58,699,50,49
gauge14=Mooney_Bravo!Turn Coordinator, 248, 528 ,130,130
gauge15=Cessna!Vacuum_Ampermeter, 688,681,83,82
gauge16=Cessna!Vertical_Speed, 515,529,130,131
gauge17=Cessna!Starter, 290,693,60,60
gauge18=Cessna!Avionics Switch, 224,697,33,52
gauge19=Mooney_Bravo!Landing Lights, 819,319,35,53
gauge20=Mooney_Bravo!Master Alt Bat, 178,697,33,52
gauge21=Mooney_Bravo!Navigation Lights, 905,319,35,53
gauge22=Mooney_Bravo!Strobe Lights, 862,319,35,53
gauge23=Mooney_Bravo!Pitot Heat, 948,319,35,54
gauge24=Cessna172!Whiskey_Compass, 740,201,60
gauge25=Mooney_Bravo!Left Fuel, 774,680,83,83
gauge26=Cessna172!Airspeed, 248,396,130
gauge27=Mooney_Bravo!Altimeter, 376,327,40,40
gauge28=Mooney_Bravo!Cowl Flap Display, 531,327,40,40
gauge29=Mooney_Bravo!Master Caution, 415,327,40,40
gauge30=Mooney_Bravo!Amps, 453,327,40,40
gauge31=Mooney_Bravo!Pitot Heat, 570,327,40,40
gauge32=Cessna182s!Oil_Press_Temp, 492,327,40,40
gauge33=SimIcons!ATC Icon, 31,476,30,30
gauge34=SimIcons!GPS Icon, 30,556,30,30
gauge35=SimIcons!Kneeboard Icon, 30,595,30,30
gauge36=SimIcons!Map Icon, 30,515,30,30
gauge37=MiniPanel!RPM Indicator, 649,528,130,130
gauge38=Cessna172!Thrust_Controls, 95,572,120
gauge39=Cessna!Flaps, 897,692,90,59


//--------------------------------------------------------
[Window01]
file=popup.bmp
file_1024=popup.bmp
size_mm=1024
window_size_ratio=1.000
position=0
visible=0
ident=GPS_PANEL
window_size= 1.000, 1.000
window_pos= 0.000, 0.000

gauge00=fs9gps!gps_295, 478,413,545,354

[Default View]
X=0
Y=0
SIZE_X=8191
SIZE_Y=3936[/quote]

this is a remap of the gauges to FSX for HR200 on a 2d panel just a simple change to the text in the panel CFG ,,to bad this doesnt have a VC

PostPosted: Thu Feb 05, 2009 1:36 pm
by ctcav8r
creator2003 wrote:
QUOTE (creator2003 @ Feb 5 2009, 10:33 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
this is a remap of the gauges to FSX for HR200 on a 2d panel just a simple change to the text in the panel CFG ,,to bad this doesnt have a VC



When I first load up the Robin, there is still nothing there - but if I go Views > Instrument Panel > Main - it comes up. However, if I want to look around the cockpit using the hat switch on my stick - the panel stays still but the outside moves around? It did this before when I didn't have any guages as well. **I think I realise now - that I have it in VC which you said it doesn't have**
But even with2D if I look left, right, up, down etc - everything disappears inside the cockpit and it is just outside
Also no cockpit? ie window struts, seats, walls etc. I wish I knew more about FS!
What you have done is great for me to practise engine start ups etc - so thanks heaps!!
Now if there was only a way to get a perfect cockpit! My next few months of training would be much easier :-)

Hope you can find another version (fsx!!!) for the Robin - would make lives very much easier lol.
Let me know if you do.

Deeknow - yep download both of your repaints (panel and repaint).
Would love it if someone could whip one up with a CTC paint job! (Robin/Alpha)
I found one for a Katana.
In fact just to top it off a repaint for the Robin/Alpha and one for the DA42 Twinstar - all my Christmases would come at once!

Can't wait to buy your Hamilton X - Creator2003!
Would love to see screenshots of the CTC facilities and apron(s)! Have you got all of the markings and taxi centre lines for the CTC aprons?

PostPosted: Thu Feb 05, 2009 3:27 pm
by deeknow
ctcav8r wrote:
QUOTE (ctcav8r @ Feb 5 2009, 02:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Would love it if someone could whip one up with a CTC paint job! (Robin/Alpha)
I found one for a Katana.
In fact just to top it off a repaint for the Robin/Alpha and one for the DA42 Twinstar - all my Christmases would come at once!


Yeah, I think you'll find the Katana is also a repaint I did, ZK-SFG? Re the CTC Alpha, send me some pics and I'll paint it if you like
There is a Twinstar model about, a payware one from Abacus, apparently FSX compatible:
http://www.abacuspub.com/fsd/catalog/s609.htm

PostPosted: Thu Feb 05, 2009 3:42 pm
by ctcav8r
deeknow wrote:
QUOTE (deeknow @ Feb 5 2009, 04:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yeah, I think you'll find the Katana is also a repaint I did, ZK-SFG? Re the CTC Alpha, send me some pics and I'll paint it if you like
There is a Twinstar model about, a payware one from Abacus, apparently FSX compatible:
http://www.abacuspub.com/fsd/catalog/s609.htm


Yeah that'd be cool:
hmmm.. can you send me your email?
I'll email you mine to your NZFF inbox - don't know how to add pictures...

PostPosted: Fri Feb 06, 2009 8:43 am
by Alex
ctcav8r wrote:
QUOTE (ctcav8r @ Feb 5 2009, 04:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
...don't know how to add pictures...

How to post images. winkyy.gif

Alex

PostPosted: Thu Feb 26, 2009 10:44 pm
by ctcav8r
ctcav8r wrote:
QUOTE (ctcav8r @ Feb 4 2009, 07:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hi there,
I'm using FSX and have been for a while.
I'm just starting my flying training at Hamilton (CTC)
My aircraft for training is a Robin HR200 / (NZ) Alpha 160
I would love to have this aircraft to practise with in FSX.
I downloaded a FS2004 version (which seems to be the only one around) but the panels don't work.
Reading through other forums this is a common problem and not really one that can be solved.
When I load the aircraft - it doesn't have any panel or gauges at all.

Was wondering if anyone knew of/could help me find an FSX version?
Am very happy to pay for it if it is good quality.

Or is there anyone here that can create one or is in the process of?


Are their quality aircraft designers that would be interested in making a RObin/ALpha 160?
Does anyone know of a software developer or aircraft designer that might be interested?
Would love it if someone was able to make an FSX version!!

PostPosted: Sun Mar 22, 2009 2:42 pm
by vdm
Hi guys, sorry to dig up this thread.

Quick question - I have FSX and have downloaded a Robin HR200 (shr200.zip, by Mike Stone). I then downloaded the 2D Alpha 160 panel to go with it (made by deeknow from this forum). I realise both of these are made for FS2004, but I got the HR200 working fine, I just can't seem to get the Alpha panel working properly. I tried the panel.cfg fix that creator2003 posted in this thread which makes the gauges show up but puts them in the wrong position so it looks like this: http://img25.imageshack.us/my.php?image=alphapanel.jpg

I've spent a lot of time on Google but can't seem to find a fix. Does anyone have any ideas?

Cheers.

PostPosted: Fri Apr 10, 2009 2:52 pm
by ctcav8r
ctcav8r wrote:
QUOTE (ctcav8r @ Feb 26 2009, 11:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Are their quality aircraft designers that would be interested in making a RObin/ALpha 160?
Does anyone know of a software developer or aircraft designer that might be interested?
Would love it if someone was able to make an FSX version!!


In regards to a designer...
even if it was a company and you know someone who is good there to make the Alpha/Robin.
I get a little bit frustrated with the same a/c getting made time and time again while other new aircraft haven't been done at all.
That's just me though.
Definately keen to pay for a good working FSX a/c of the Alpha/Robin.
The FS9 version Robin Hr22 just doesn't cut the mustard in FSX I'm sorry. No VC is the main prob... + numerous others
Someone, somewhere know of anyone who might be interested?
I will be flying the a/c in a few weeks so can supply any pics, data, charts etc that might be needed.
Just need a willing soul to take it on...

PostPosted: Fri Apr 10, 2009 4:54 pm
by ctcav8r
Here are a few pics from what I could find on the net:





PostPosted: Sat Apr 11, 2009 1:02 am
by UnitedWeFall
ctcav8r wrote:
QUOTE (ctcav8r @ Apr 10 2009, 02:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
In regards to a designer...
even if it was a company and you know someone who is good there to make the Alpha/Robin.
I get a little bit frustrated with the same a/c getting made time and time again while other new aircraft haven't been done at all.
That's just me though.
Definately keen to pay for a good working FSX a/c of the Alpha/Robin.
The FS9 version Robin Hr22 just doesn't cut the mustard in FSX I'm sorry. No VC is the main prob... + numerous others
Someone, somewhere know of anyone who might be interested?
I will be flying the a/c in a few weeks so can supply any pics, data, charts etc that might be needed.
Just need a willing soul to take it on...


Agreed. I fly at the aero club, i'm willing to go and take photos of the Alphas exterior and instrument panels for anyone that might be interested in making a model for FSX.

PostPosted: Tue Apr 14, 2009 11:57 pm
by deeknow
I'm not meaning to be rude or anything winkyy.gif but you guys asking for someone to whip up a model know that it is a pretty serious undertaking right?

Its far more likely that an easier route is to create a VC, which probably means one for FS9 and another for FSX, you may just find someone willing to do that but even that will be a big step up from building a simple 2d panel.

PostPosted: Wed Apr 15, 2009 9:15 am
by Naki
As deeknow said - making a decent model is a big undertaking and can take months if not years of part time work - often the nicer models you get are group undertakings - somebody does the gauges, another does the FDE, another the sound, another the aircraft exterior etc etc..but I would really like to see a nice Alpha/Robin 160 modelled.

PostPosted: Thu Apr 16, 2009 9:13 pm
by UnitedWeFall
Naki wrote:
QUOTE (Naki @ Apr 15 2009, 09:15 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
As deeknow said - making a decent model is a big undertaking and can take months if not years of part time work - often the nicer models you get are group undertakings - somebody does the gauges, another does the FDE, another the sound, another the aircraft exterior etc etc..but I would really like to see a nice Alpha/Robin 160 modelled.


Fair enough.. no harm in asking though smile.gif

PostPosted: Fri Apr 17, 2009 12:03 am
by ctcav8r
Well, we might be in luck!!!
I emailed around lots of companies and Premier Aircraft Designs http://www.premaircraft.com/ said they would be keen!
They have a French designer there who is passionate about French aircraft and has requested I send more info, charts, pictures, specs etc which I just have!!!
can't imagine anything right away - but they definitely seem keen seeing the 'hole-in-the-market' for a popular training aircraft.

So, BIG step in the right direction.

And, Premaircraft if you're reading this! Thanks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

PostPosted: Fri Apr 17, 2009 1:01 pm
by deeknow
ctcav8r wrote:
QUOTE (ctcav8r @ Apr 17 2009, 12:03 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I emailed around lots of companies and Premier Aircraft Designs http://www.premaircraft.com/ said they would be keen!

Bludy brilliant... good work. Keep us posted if they let you know they are starting work on it.

PostPosted: Fri Apr 17, 2009 1:24 pm
by Naki
Thats good news!

PostPosted: Fri Apr 17, 2009 2:30 pm
by Njbb1995
Wow great!

PostPosted: Thu Apr 23, 2009 1:54 pm
by atc_unit
ctcav8r wrote:
QUOTE (ctcav8r @ Apr 15 2009, 04:54 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Here are a few pics from what I could find on the net:


LOL My boss is in the first two Alpha formation pics. If you need any interior shots I can get them next time I'm at work.
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