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PostPosted: Sat Dec 13, 2008 8:21 pm
by dbcunnz
Have we got any NZFF members that do or can do conversions of virtual cockpits from FS9 to FSX.
I would have a go at doing one myself but haven't got a clue on how to do it so is there anyone that could help by steering me in the right direction.
I have a AW650 Argosy work perfect in FSX but the VC is only partly there and would like to get it in full working order.

PostPosted: Sun Dec 14, 2008 11:12 am
by creator2003
What i do that is pretty simple ,go to the panel folder of the aircraft you are modding [C:\Program Files\Microsoft Games\Microsoft Flight Simulator X\SimObjects\Airplanes\C172\panel] open up the panel cfg with note pad ..

which should look like this exsample below

QUOTE
// Panel Configuration file
// Cessna 172sp
// Copyright © 2001-2003 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.

[Window Titles]
Window00=Main Panel
Window01=Radio Stack
Window02=GPS
Window03=IFR Panel
Window04=Landing View
Window05=Mini Panel

[Window00]
file_1024=cessna_172_background.bmp
file_1024_night=cessna_172_background_night.bmp
size_mm=640
position=7
visible=1
no_luminous=1
ident=MAIN_PANEL
zorder=0
windowsize_ratio=1.000
window_pos=0.0,0.0
window_size=1.000,1.000
view_window_rect=0,0,8192,4000

gauge00=Cessna!Altimeter, 346,167, 79, 79
gauge01=Cessna!Annunciator, 517,159, 62, 15
gauge02=Cessna!Avionics Switch, 288,426, 37, 47
gauge03=Cessna!Flaps, 467,415, 48, 64
gauge04=Cessna!Fuel_Selector, 556,415, 82, 62
gauge05=Cessna!Heading_Indicator, 264,247, 81, 81
gauge06=Cessna!Master_Alt_Bat, 121,425, 40, 45
gauge07=Cessna!Nav_GPS_Annunciator, 582,162, 12, 11
gauge08=Cessna!Nav GPS Switch, 594,162, 12, 11
gauge09=Cessna!OMI_Lights, 609,158
gauge10=Cessna!Pitch_Trim, 528,416, 21, 36
gauge11=Cessna!Starter, 71,422, 47, 52
gauge12=Cessna!Turn_Indicator, 185,247, 78, 78
gauge13=Cessna!Vertical_Speed, 346,247, 79, 79
gauge14=Cessna!Vacuum_Ampermeter, 122,334, 58, 58
gauge15=Cessna172!Airspeed, 185,167, 78, 78
gauge16=Cessna172!Alt_Static_Air, 339,453, 37, 27
gauge17=Cessna172!Clock, 122,193, 58, 58
gauge18=Cessna172!EGT_Fuel_Flow, 122,271, 58, 58
gauge19=Cessna172!Fuel, 61,270, 58, 58
gauge20=Cessna172!Fuel_Shutoff, 517,453, 36, 28
gauge21=Cessna172!Panel_Lights_Switch, 342,418, 30, 34
gauge22=Cessna172!Tachometer, 347,329, 78, 78
gauge23=Cessna172!Thrust_Controls, 375,425, 81, 55
gauge24=Cessna182s!Oil_Press_Temp, 62,334, 58, 58
gauge25=Cessna182s!Switches, 163,440,121, 41
gauge26=CessnaWAlpha!ADF_Alpha, 431,329, 79, 79
gauge27=CessnaWAlpha!Attitude_Alpha, 266,167, 78, 78
gauge28=CessnaWAlpha!VOR2_Alpha, 431,247, 79, 79
gauge29=CessnaWAlpha!VOR1_Alpha, 431,167, 79, 79
gauge30=CessnaWAlpha!Whiskey_Compass_Alpha, 499, 98, 35, 23
gauge41=SimIcons!Kneeboard Icon, 66,255
gauge42=SimIcons!ATC Icon, 78,255
gauge43=SimIcons!Map Icon, 90,255
gauge44=SimIcons!GPS Icon, 102,255
gauge45=SimIcons1024!IFR Icon, 114,255, 12, 12
gauge46=SimIcons1024!Landing Icon, 126,255, 12, 12
gauge47=Bendix_King_Radio!Bendix-King Radio Audio, 519,177,120, 24
gauge48=Bendix_King_Radio!Bendix-King Radio Nav-Comm 1, 519,200,120, 41
gauge49=Bendix_King_Radio!Bendix-King Radio Nav-Comm 2, 519,240,120, 42
gauge50=Bendix_King_Radio!Bendix-King Radio ADF, 519,281,120, 32
gauge51=Bendix_King_Radio!Bendix-King Radio DME, 519,313,120, 30
gauge52=Bendix_King_Radio!Bendix-King Radio Xpndr, 519,343,120, 34
gauge53=Bendix_King_Radio!Bendix-King Radio AP, 519,377,121, 34
gauge54=n_number_plaque!n_number_plaque, 175,380,75,21


//--------------------------------------------------------
[Window03]
file_1024=cessna_172_ifr_background.bmp
file_1024_night=cessna_172_ifr_background_night.bmp
size_mm=640
position=7
visible=0
ident=MAIN_PANEL_ALT1
no_luminous=1
zorder=1
view_window_rect=0,0,8192,1200

gauge00=Cessna!Altimeter, 279, 91,100, 99
gauge01=Cessna!Annunciator, 493, 81, 79, 20
gauge02=Cessna!Avionics Switch, 210,411, 40, 59
gauge03=Cessna!Flaps, 430,399, 61, 78
gauge04=Cessna!Fuel_Selector, 540,400, 98, 79
gauge05=Cessna!Heading_Indicator, 179,191,100, 99
gauge06=Cessna!Master_Alt_Bat, 2,414, 45, 55
gauge07=Cessna!Nav_GPS_Annunciator, 574, 84, 16, 15
gauge08=Cessna!Nav GPS Switch, 589, 86, 13, 11
gauge09=Cessna!OMI_Lights, 609, 83, 31, 15
gauge10=Cessna!Pitch_Trim, 504,400, 24, 46
gauge11=Cessna!Turn_Indicator, 78,189,100,100
gauge12=Cessna!Vertical_Speed, 280,191,100,100
gauge13=Cessna!Vacuum_Ampermeter, 158,298, 73, 75
gauge14=Cessna172!Airspeed, 79, 90, 98, 97
gauge15=Cessna172!Alt_Static_Air, 271,449, 44, 30
gauge16=Cessna172!Clock, 1,122, 73, 72
gauge17=Cessna172!EGT_Fuel_Flow, 1,299, 73, 73
gauge18=Cessna172!Fuel, 1,220, 74, 72
gauge19=Cessna172!Fuel_Shutoff, 494,445, 43, 34
gauge20=Cessna172!Tachometer, 282,293, 98, 95
gauge21=Cessna172!Thrust_Controls, 321,414,102, 64
gauge22=Cessna172!Panel_Lights_Switch, 273,402, 38, 41
gauge23=Cessna182s!Oil_Press_Temp, 80,300, 73, 72
gauge24=Cessna182s!Switches, 51,429,151, 51
gauge25=CessnaWAlpha!ADF_Alpha, 387,292,100,100
gauge26=CessnaWAlpha!Attitude_Alpha, 179, 90,100, 99
gauge27=CessnaWAlpha!VOR1_Alpha, 385, 91,100,100
gauge28=CessnaWAlpha!VOR2_Alpha, 385,190,100,100
gauge29=CessnaWAlpha!Whiskey_Compass_Alpha, 471, 3, 43, 30
gauge30=SimIcons!Kneeboard Icon, 37,379, 12, 12
gauge31=SimIcons!ATC Icon, 51,379, 12, 12
gauge32=SimIcons!Map Icon, 65,379, 12, 12
gauge33=SimIcons!GPS Icon, 79,379, 12, 12
gauge34=SimIcons1024!VFR Icon, 93,379, 12, 12
gauge35=SimIcons1024!Landing Icon, 107,379, 12, 12
gauge36=Bendix_King_Radio!Bendix-King Radio Audio, 496,102,143,27
gauge37=Bendix_King_Radio!Bendix-King Radio Nav-Comm 1, 496,129,143,52
gauge38=Bendix_King_Radio!Bendix-King Radio Nav-Comm 2, 496,181,143,56
gauge39=Bendix_King_Radio!Bendix-King Radio ADF, 496,236,143,35
gauge40=Bendix_King_Radio!Bendix-King Radio DME, 496,271,143,37
gauge41=Bendix_King_Radio!Bendix-King Radio Xpndr, 496,308,143,43
gauge42=Bendix_King_Radio!Bendix-King Radio AP, 496,351,143,43


[Window04]
file_1024=cessna_172_landing_background.bmp
file_1024_night=cessna_172_landing_background_night.bmp
size_mm=640
visible=0
no_luminous=1
ident=MAIN_PANEL_ALT2
windowsize_ratio=1.000
position=7
zorder=2
view_window_rect=0,0,8192,4900

gauge00=Cessna!Altimeter, 346,167, 79, 79
gauge01=Cessna!Annunciator, 517,159, 62, 15
gauge02=Cessna!Avionics Switch, 288,426, 37, 47
gauge03=Cessna!Flaps, 467,415, 48, 64
gauge04=Cessna!Fuel_Selector, 556,415, 82, 62
gauge05=Cessna!Heading_Indicator, 264,247, 81, 81
gauge06=Cessna!Master_Alt_Bat, 121,425, 40, 45
gauge07=Cessna!Nav_GPS_Annunciator, 582,162, 12, 11
gauge08=Cessna!Nav GPS Switch, 595,162, 10, 10
gauge09=Cessna!OMI_Lights, 609,158
gauge10=Cessna!Pitch_Trim, 528,416, 21, 36
gauge11=Cessna!Starter, 71,422, 47, 52
gauge12=Cessna!Turn_Indicator, 185,247, 78, 78
gauge13=Cessna!Vertical_Speed, 346,247, 79, 79
gauge14=Cessna!Vacuum_Ampermeter, 122,334, 58, 58
gauge15=Cessna172!Airspeed, 185,167, 78, 78
gauge16=Cessna172!Alt_Static_Air, 339,453, 37, 27
gauge17=Cessna172!Clock, 122,193, 58, 58
gauge18=Cessna172!EGT_Fuel_Flow, 122,271, 58, 58
gauge19=Cessna172!Fuel, 61,270, 58, 58
gauge20=Cessna172!Fuel_Shutoff, 517,453, 36, 28
gauge21=Cessna172!Panel_Lights_Switch, 342,418, 30, 34
gauge22=Cessna172!Tachometer, 347,329, 78, 78
gauge23=Cessna172!Thrust_Controls, 375,425, 81, 55
gauge24=Cessna182s!Oil_Press_Temp, 62,334, 58, 58
gauge25=Cessna182s!Switches, 163,440,121, 41
gauge26=CessnaWAlpha!ADF_Alpha, 431,329, 79, 79
gauge27=CessnaWAlpha!Attitude_Alpha, 266,167, 78, 78
gauge28=CessnaWAlpha!VOR1_Alpha, 431,167, 79, 79
gauge29=CessnaWAlpha!VOR2_Alpha, 431,247, 79, 79
gauge30=CessnaWAlpha!Whiskey_Compass_Alpha, 499, 98, 35, 24
gauge31=SimIcons!Kneeboard Icon, 66,255
gauge32=SimIcons!ATC Icon, 78,255
gauge33=SimIcons!Map Icon, 90,255
gauge34=SimIcons!GPS Icon, 102,255
gauge35=SimIcons1024!VFR Icon, 114,255, 12, 12
gauge36=SimIcons1024!IFR Icon, 126,255, 12, 12
gauge37=Bendix_King_Radio!Bendix-King Radio Audio, 519,177,120, 24
gauge38=Bendix_King_Radio!Bendix-King Radio Nav-Comm 1, 519,200,120, 41
gauge39=Bendix_King_Radio!Bendix-King Radio Nav-Comm 2, 519,240,120, 42
gauge40=Bendix_King_Radio!Bendix-King Radio ADF, 519,281,120, 32
gauge41=Bendix_King_Radio!Bendix-King Radio DME, 519,313,120, 30
gauge42=Bendix_King_Radio!Bendix-King Radio Xpndr, 519,343,120, 34
gauge43=Bendix_King_Radio!Bendix-King Radio AP, 519,377,121, 34


[Window01]
BACKGROUND_COLOR=2,2,2
size_mm=156,308
position=8
visible=0
ident=RADIO_STACK_PANEL
zorder=3

gauge00=Bendix_King_Radio!Bendix-King Radio Audio, 0, 0,156,31
gauge01=Bendix_King_Radio!Bendix-King Radio Nav-Comm 1, 0, 29,156,59
gauge02=Bendix_King_Radio!Bendix-King Radio Nav-Comm 2, 0, 86,156,59
gauge03=Bendix_King_Radio!Bendix-King Radio ADF, 0,142,156,41
gauge04=Bendix_King_Radio!Bendix-King Radio DME, 0,180,156,41
gauge05=Bendix_King_Radio!Bendix-King Radio Xpndr, 0,217,156,49
gauge06=Bendix_King_Radio!Bendix-King Radio AP, 0,262,156,48
windowsize_ratio=1.000
window_pos=0.756,0.358
window_size=0.243,0.641


[Window02]
size_mm=456,378
window_size=0.5
position=8
BACKGROUND_COLOR=0,0,0
VISIBLE=0
ident=GPS_PANEL
zorder=4

gauge00=fs9gps!gps_500, 0,0

[Window05]
position=7
size_mm=631,100
child_3d=1
background_color=0,0,0
no_luminous=1
ident=MINIPANEL

gauge00=Cessna172!Airspeed, 0, 1
gauge01=Cessna!Turn_Indicator, 102, 0
gauge02=CessnaWAlpha!Attitude_Alpha, 207, 0
gauge03=Cessna!Heading_Indicator, 312, 0
gauge04=Cessna!Altimeter, 417, 0
gauge05=Cessna!Vertical_Speed, 531, 0


[VCockpit01]
size_mm=512,512
pixel_size=512,512
texture=$C172s_1
background_color=0,0,0

gauge00=Cessna!Nav_GPS_Annunciator, 69,457, 20, 19
gauge01=Cessna!VOR1, 259, 1,140,140
gauge02=Cessna!Nav GPS Switch, 45,456, 20, 21
gauge03=Cessna!ADF, 259,283,145,145
gauge04=Cessna172!EGT_Fuel_Flow, 400,109,107,107
gauge05=Cessna172!Fuel, 400, 1,107,107
gauge06=Cessna182s!Oil_Press_Temp, 405,325,107,107
gauge07=Cessna!OMI_Lights, 0,456, 44, 24
gauge08=Cessna!Vacuum_Ampermeter, 405,217,107,107
gauge09=Cessna!Annunciator, 0,481, 99, 25
gauge10=Cessna172!Whiskey_Compass, 100,456, 56, 39
gauge11=Cessna182s!VOR2, 259,142,140,140
gauge12=Bendix_King_Radio!Bendix-King Radio Audio, 0, 0, 258, 50
gauge13=Bendix_King_Radio!Bendix-King Radio Nav-Comm 1, 0, 51,258, 95
gauge14=Bendix_King_Radio!Bendix-King Radio Nav-Comm 2, 0,147,258, 95
gauge15=Bendix_King_Radio!Bendix-King Radio ADF, 0,243,258, 66
gauge16=Bendix_King_Radio!Bendix-King Radio DME, 0,310,258, 66
gauge17=Bendix_King_Radio!Bendix-King Radio Xpndr, 0,377,258, 78
gauge18=n_number_plaque!n_number_plaque, 188,468,89,25

[VCockpit02]
size_mm=512,512
pixel_size=512,512
texture=$C172s_2
background_color=0,0,0

gauge00=Cessna!Heading_Indicator, 0, 0,163,162
gauge01=Cessna!Turn_Indicator, 164, 0,158,158
gauge02=Bell_206B!Attitude, 323, 0,158,158
gauge03=Cessna!Altimeter, 0,163,158,156
gauge04=Cessna172!Airspeed, 164,159,155,155
gauge05=Cessna!Vertical_Speed, 323,159,156,157
gauge06=Bendix_King_Radio!Bendix-King Radio AP, 0,321,258, 77
gauge07=Cessna172!Tachometer, 260,318,143,143
gauge08=Cessna172!Clock, 0,400, 86, 86
gauge09=Cessna!Flaps, 88,400, 78,105


[Views]
VIEW_FORWARD_DIR= 8.0, 0.0, 0.0

[Color]
Day=255,255,255
Night=255,255,255
Luminous=201,64,64[/quote]

you go find this part of the cfg

QUOTE
[VCockpit01]
size_mm=512,512
pixel_size=512,512
texture=$C172s_1
background_color=0,0,0

gauge00=Cessna!Nav_GPS_Annunciator, 69,457, 20, 19
gauge01=Cessna!VOR1, 259, 1,140,140
gauge02=Cessna!Nav GPS Switch, 45,456, 20, 21
gauge03=Cessna!ADF, 259,283,145,145
gauge04=Cessna172!EGT_Fuel_Flow, 400,109,107,107
gauge05=Cessna172!Fuel, 400, 1,107,107
gauge06=Cessna182s!Oil_Press_Temp, 405,325,107,107
gauge07=Cessna!OMI_Lights, 0,456, 44, 24
gauge08=Cessna!Vacuum_Ampermeter, 405,217,107,107
gauge09=Cessna!Annunciator, 0,481, 99, 25
gauge10=Cessna172!Whiskey_Compass, 100,456, 56, 39
gauge11=Cessna182s!VOR2, 259,142,140,140
gauge12=Bendix_King_Radio!Bendix-King Radio Audio, 0, 0, 258, 50
gauge13=Bendix_King_Radio!Bendix-King Radio Nav-Comm 1, 0, 51,258, 95
gauge14=Bendix_King_Radio!Bendix-King Radio Nav-Comm 2, 0,147,258, 95
gauge15=Bendix_King_Radio!Bendix-King Radio ADF, 0,243,258, 66
gauge16=Bendix_King_Radio!Bendix-King Radio DME, 0,310,258, 66
gauge17=Bendix_King_Radio!Bendix-King Radio Xpndr, 0,377,258, 78
gauge18=n_number_plaque!n_number_plaque, 188,468,89,25

[VCockpit02]
size_mm=512,512
pixel_size=512,512
texture=$C172s_2
background_color=0,0,0

gauge00=Cessna!Heading_Indicator, 0, 0,163,162
gauge01=Cessna!Turn_Indicator, 164, 0,158,158
gauge02=Bell_206B!Attitude, 323, 0,158,158
gauge03=Cessna!Altimeter, 0,163,158,156
gauge04=Cessna172!Airspeed, 164,159,155,155
gauge05=Cessna!Vertical_Speed, 323,159,156,157
gauge06=Bendix_King_Radio!Bendix-King Radio AP, 0,321,258, 77
gauge07=Cessna172!Tachometer, 260,318,143,143
gauge08=Cessna172!Clock, 0,400, 86, 86
gauge09=Cessna!Flaps, 88,400, 78,105[/quote]

now you just go through the other panel folders of other aircraft that you like and change gauge lines apart from the numbers [=Cessna!Heading_Indicator,]or [Cessna172!EGT_Fuel_Flow]etc for the ones that you have in the aircraft you are modding ,,it is best to use default fsx aircraft replacement if you where to share the mod you have done otherwise you can use your payware ones but keeping in mind they are copyrighted to that company etc ..
just save your changes with notepad and check out the vc ,,the numbers are just the placement of the gauge on the panel ...

the textures in this folder also can be played around with using photoshop or gimp maybe
the 2D panel works the same way..

as for modding the 3d modeling of a VC is a no go unless from what i remember X aircraft made with the X SDK come in two parts VC and Plane fuse so you could build a new VC for a plane if you knew how ...

i hope ive given you enough to understand sort of and you can make a start
mike

ps :always backup and save somewhere else before you start so you can always go back if it doesnt work out

PostPosted: Sun Dec 14, 2008 10:16 pm
by dbcunnz
This is the problem I have pic one is the virtual cockpit of the Argosy in FS9.
Pic two is what I get with the virtual cockpit of the Argosy in FSX is there any way I can fix this or convert the FS9 one so as to get the same result in FSX.


virtual cockpit FS9


Virtual cockpit FSX

PostPosted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 2:31 pm
by creator2003
Ah ok this is a texture thing of course and the fix could be a reformat of the texture or it could be as it looks a alpha channel problem where that is a "mite be able" or "not" to fix ,,if you lead me to the download i will have a look at the textures of the vc and see what i can do about it, as ive never seen this before in a coversion to X or done that way in the modelling of a vc ,so im keen to see what it is now and have a play ...
mike

PostPosted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 7:33 pm
by dbcunnz
creator2003 wrote:
QUOTE (creator2003 @ Dec 16 2008, 03:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Ah ok this is a texture thing of course and the fix could be a reformat of the texture or it could be as it looks a alpha channel problem where that is a "mite be able" or "not" to fix ,,if you lead me to the download i will have a look at the textures of the vc and see what i can do about it, as ive never seen this before in a coversion to X or done that way in the modelling of a vc ,so im keen to see what it is now and have a play ...
mike

It is not a conversion to FSX it is a FS9 aircraft that I put into FSX and it works fine apart form the vc and what I was really after was if someone could convert it so the vc runs in FSX.
The FS9 download is http://classicbritishfiles.com/index.php?o...leinfo&id=1
I find it a very good classic Safe Air aircraft to fly I have flown it all over NZ from NZKT to NZNV and to the Chatham Islands in FS9.
Now I am on FSX I miss having the vc as I am using a matrox triplehead with 3 22inch monitors and trackIR 4
This is another aircraft that that I have the FS9 HS 748 Hawker Siddeley (Mt Cook livery) and would like the FSX conversion http://classicbritishfiles.com/index.php?o...info&id=672
Another aircraft I have is the FS9 Carvair it would be nice to find a FSX version of this one two it would be more difficult to convert as it doesn't have a 3D vc but I have the FSX DC4 and the cockpit should be the same if it could be configured to work in the Carvair http://classicbritishfiles.com/index.php?o...info&id=474
Any help in any of these would be nice, I am very good at building computers but when it comes to playing around with programs im lost unsure.gif

PostPosted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 9:01 pm
by creator2003
Yeah ill give them a look over during the night i feel like doing something like this ...ill get back to you and tell you how i went..

PostPosted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 10:28 pm
by creator2003
After downloading this file i unzipped and seen a texture folder with the addon so i opened it up and also seen textures for the aircraft heres a pic below of the texture folder i mean

in the texture folder there are these extra textures pic below

just drop them in each one of the texture folders for the model


i just put the gauges in gauges effects in effects and she fired up thumbup1.gif

this has a very heavy flp rate in FSX VC down to 15 on my system and around 18 to 20 on outside view and has one problem with a texture see below but the rest is there and ive done no mods to it ...
i did turn the main textures to DX1 but didnt really see to much of a result


so id say that is what you needed to do with the extra textures and that they where like that to cut down file size "maybe"
you should also be able to do this with the other rick piper model but the last one i looked at didnt seem to have a vc to it ??
anyway all the best with your fsx flights
mike

PostPosted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 11:14 pm
by dbcunnz
Thanks for that Mike.
The other one I would like to do is the Carvair is it possible to copy some of the texture files from the FSX DC4 to the texture file of the Carvair
There are 4 vitual cockpit.bmp in the DC4 textures and no virtual cockpit files in the Carvair textures
Maybe it will be a trial and error exercise
I have replaced the Panel in the Carvair with the DC4 one and it works fine in the 2D cockpit so should work in the vc too if I get the right files in the textures
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