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Air NZ Holidays Wilco/FT Repaint

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 12:31 am
by kleinjakob
Hy from the other side of the world!

I'm Jakob from Austria/Vienna and I'm a real friend of NZ, so at least in my sim, I like to fly around the kiwi islands. I haven't found a repaint for the Wilco/Feel There B737-300 in the ANZ Holidays ZK-FRE paint scheme, so I started to paint my own. As the Paint Kit which is provided is very very basic I have to do nearly everything by hand, so I thought I'll share with you as you could give me some hints to make it perfect.

I know there is the great repaint by Dan for the vistaliners model, but I thought it would be nice if you could use ZK-FRE with the W/FT panel without the need to do merges...

Critique always welcome...

Some days ago I started first to redraw the logotype and icon:
(I think the type might be an approx. 70% vertically compressed "Venus URW Light", but as I don't have this font nor want to spend $20 on it I simply redraw from pictures)


As you see I started with the first leaves:
I draw them in Illustrator so I have them vectorized, for easier modification and maybe later reuse


Today I nearly finished the flowers (or palm trees?) with just the 2nd top left:
Here are some photos of ZK-FRE in Vienna, sadly this will never happen...



More pictures at: Photobucket Album

I'm waiting for your comments, I'l keep you informed and will upload as soon as I am finished.

Servus from Vienna,
Jakob

PostPosted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 9:25 am
by creator2003
Thats awesome and a great effort nothing bad to say about it from me ,thanks for all your work and artist skills and of cause the effort youve taken to whack out a NZ repaint clapping.gif New_Zealand_etc.gif

PostPosted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 3:57 pm
by victor_alpha_charlie
It's really cool to see someone from so far away that flies in NZ. Awesome repaint too! You've got quite a skill being able to paint the font etc all by hand!

PostPosted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 5:18 pm
by Naki
Looking good! - I'll post it in the payware repaint thread once its been uploaded.

PostPosted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 6:37 pm
by Alex
Nice stuff Jakob, looks really good for a work in progress. clapping.gif

Alex

PostPosted: Tue Sep 09, 2008 8:34 am
by kleinjakob
Well at first I want to thank you for your kind words but to be honest, with the right tools and some knowledge how to use them its no magic. And today it is a lot easer than half a year ago when there was virtually no visual material of ZK-FRE available,...

Back to the plane:
Today I finished the 2nd palm tree (thanks to a post over at Dan's Vistaliners repaint I now know its a palm tree!) and added the notches in the leaves, corrected a bit the emergency exit border, removed the first port and the first 2 on starboard (12/11 resp. in forward group left). and changed the lightmap respectively.

I want to thank the photographers who shared their pics on a.net for reference and to the painters whose textures where a great reference to me.

Here are some of the last pics







For more see the updated Photobucket Album

Jakob

P.S. as I just reviewed the pics when uploading, I saw the TM after the logo is missing, I will add it tomorrow!

PostPosted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 7:32 am
by kleinjakob
Hy, I just wanted to say my ZK-FRE took off today towards avsim.com!





QUOTE
I will edit this post when the File is accepted by the moderators and give the link, or look for the name: "wft733_ANZ-holidays.zip" by "Jakob Klein".[/quote]
The download is available at avsim.com under: DLID 127700 (wft733_anz-holidays.zip)

I encourage your critique, so I can repair some mistakes!


Good Morning to New Zealand from Vienna, I will go to sleep now...
Jakob

PostPosted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 8:07 am
by ronindanbo
kleinjakob wrote:
QUOTE (kleinjakob @ Sep 11 2008, 07:32 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hy, I just wanted to say my ZK-FRE took off today towards avsim.com!





I will edit this post when the File is accepted by the moderators and give the link, or look for the name: "wft733_ANZ-holidays.zip" by "Jakob Klein".

I encourage your critique, so I can repair some mistakes!


Good Morning to New Zealand from Vienna, I will go to sleep now...
Jakob


Paint looks good buddy BUT if I were you I would redo the windows as the Wilco ones are quite frankly awefull and I think the wrong size (too small) but that might be me as I never rated the product for its external model anyway laugh.gif

PostPosted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 6:11 pm
by kleinjakob
Dan, thank you for your input, I will have a closer look at some pictures to get the window size right. And you are right I only like to fly this plane, not because its a beauty, but its the inner values that count! I also have a merge between the external much better Vistaliners 733 in your repaint with the WFT panel, but generally I don't like merges because it becomes confusing after a time...

The next days I'm a bit occupied by university but after that I will do my best with the windows (and maybe I will do a better paintkit).

Greetings, Jakob

(By the way the file is accepted and available under: Avsim.com)

PostPosted: Fri Sep 12, 2008 7:02 am
by ronindanbo
I will download your paint and overlay it with mine to look at the windows, the windows in the Wilco sheesh they just never looked right in my mind.

PostPosted: Sat Sep 13, 2008 11:06 am
by kleinjakob
Dan, thank you very much, I will also have a quick look at your repaint, which also had been great help with the details of the leafs,... Hope to hear there's hope out there to have an nice -FRE outside and the great wilco panel inside. smile.gif

Jakob

PostPosted: Sat Sep 13, 2008 1:09 pm
by NZ255
Is there a way to have the Wilco VC and Vistaliners exterior, or will you only get the Wilco panel? (With the merge)

PostPosted: Sat Sep 13, 2008 3:26 pm
by Pedro
A very nice paint job Jakob. I have a problem with the textures not showing. I suspect this could be a Vista thing as the VC on other repaints are missing their textures too. I wonder if anyone else has had problems with the 737 and Vista?
Cheers
Peter

PostPosted: Sat Sep 13, 2008 4:35 pm
by dazza28
Pedro wrote:
QUOTE (Pedro @ Sep 13 2008, 03:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
A very nice paint job Jakob. I have a problem with the textures not showing. I suspect this could be a Vista thing as the VC on other repaints are missing their textures too. I wonder if anyone else has had problems with the 737 and Vista?
Cheers
Peter



hey i had that trouble too it was the texture folder name was different than the on on the add to cfg file.

[fltsim.x]
title=FeelThere Boeing 737-300 ANZ Holidays Wing
sim=B737-3A00A
model=wing
panel=
sound=
texture=ANZ_FRE
visual_damage=1
kb_checklists=
kb_reference=

i changed it to ANZH

or rename the texture folder to ANZ_FRE

hope that helps smile.gif

PostPosted: Sat Sep 13, 2008 10:10 pm
by kleinjakob
First I want to apologize for that inconvenience!

I must have forgotten to change the line for the fltsim.x.txt when extracting from one of my "development" folders, since I had several of them parallel to see the texture changes instantly in FS9. Well, yes the solutions given by dazza28 are correct, I also wrote to the avsim library managers to change the uploaded file,...

So please excuse this mistake,

Jakob

PostPosted: Sat Sep 13, 2008 10:16 pm
by dazza28
Thank you sooo much for a awesome Repaint clapping.gif

PostPosted: Sat Sep 13, 2008 10:28 pm
by kleinjakob
NZ255 wrote:
QUOTE (NZ255 @ Sep 13 2008, 03:09 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Is there a way to have the Wilco VC and Vistaliners exterior, or will you only get the Wilco panel? (With the merge)


NZ225, in FS8 (and FS9, since FS9 uses the FS8-Aircraft File MDL Structure) the virtual cockpit is hardcoded into the same .MDL file as the exterior, so if you change the exterior you also change the VC!
Read: With the merge you can only have the 2D-Panel of the W/FT (which is really worth its money)!

For FSX it is a bit mor complicated, FSX has introduced a new MDL format for aircraft, which supports seperate exterior/interior files. But most developes still hardcode their VCs into their exterior MDLs. So it is theoretically possible in FSX.

If you are interested in the merge I can give the link to the site from where I've got it.

Jakob

PostPosted: Sun Sep 14, 2008 8:42 am
by Pedro
Thanks for the fix. All is well now. In saying that my biggest problem is getting stability on Vista. Numerous "Flight Simulator has stopped working and has to close " Messages. And not enough memory issues. I guess there are plenty of answers around the net which might shed some light on the problems I'm having.

Thanks
Peter

PostPosted: Thu Oct 02, 2008 7:18 pm
by Emile
kleinjakob wrote:
QUOTE (kleinjakob @ Sep 11 2008, 07:32 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hy, I just wanted to say my ZK-FRE took off today towards avsim.com!

The download is available at avsim.com under: DLID 127700 (wft733_anz-holidays.zip)

I encourage your critique, so I can repair some mistakes!


Good Morning to New Zealand from Vienna, I will go to sleep now...
Jakob


Hey Jakob,

I've only just come across this topic so a bit of a belated reply.

You have earned your sleep : this is an AWESOME repaint clapping.gif !! I live in Auckland, not far from NZAA, so I see the real thing fairly often. I even travelled on it a few years ago when it was still flying in its Air New Zealand livery. Great Stuff !! Und sehr sehr vielen Dank fÃœr deine Arbeiten !

Cheers,
Emile.

PostPosted: Thu Oct 02, 2008 7:43 pm
by Emile
Hey Jakob,

Forgot one thing in my initial reaction. You wouldn't have a thumbnail picture for it somewhere, would you ? That way it would look so much better when I go to select the aircraft in FSX - it would sure stand out.

Thanks a million,
Emile.
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