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NAC F-27 'ZK-BXF', 1971 livery

PostPosted: Tue May 12, 2015 11:03 pm
by Wildbillkelso
Dear gentlemen!

Since the new JF Fokker F-27 Friendship obviously will have a solid number of repaints in its wake, I think it'll be better not to inflate the initial F-27 thread will all those coming from my humble paint shed.
Coming up soon will be NAC's 'ZK-BXF' in its 1971 lazy repainter's red ribbon livery (early WIP, don't mind the foremost passenger window, it's already cut in):

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Reference pic, taken at rainy-sunny Windy City:
http://www.airliners.net/photo/NAC---Ne ... 3c3ad24b38

What do you think about the blue shade of the NAC lettering? Does it match?
Note the tiny decals on the aft fuselage: As far as I can tell from the reference image, there should be an IATA logo and a Royal Mail crest. The latter one might not be an exact reprensenation, but it was the only one I could find...

Any suggestions welcome!

Thanks in advance,
Markus.

Re: NAC F-27 'ZK-BXF', 1971 livery

PostPosted: Wed May 13, 2015 9:49 am
by Spikehughes
Looking good to me !!!

Re: NAC F-27 'ZK-BXF', 1971 livery

PostPosted: Wed May 13, 2015 10:06 am
by Ian Warren
Colour and font look smack on , the 'Godwit' logo tho is round , not oval .. Look Bloody Great tho Markus B-) saves me a job and I get just to enjoy it on this lazy repainter's repaint. :D

Re: NAC F-27 'ZK-BXF', 1971 livery

PostPosted: Wed May 13, 2015 7:39 pm
by Wildbillkelso
Ian Warren wrote:... the 'Godwit' logo tho is round , not oval


Thanks for applying your expert eye, mate! :bow:
Initially I thought it was a matter of perspective, since this bird was sticked to the tail textures actually in a circle:

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But the screeshot in fact reveals some distorsion to the length:

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So obviously the textures do get a little stretched when wrapped around the model (about 105%). Not too hard to compensate this:

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Seems I have to go for the rego as well...
Talking about regos:
Since the NAC/ANZ F-27s were said to be used on domestic routes only, may I presume that - according to the CAA regulations, as I remember them - any underwing rego was obsolete?
Or did they carry one (just in case of a longer hop...)?

Cheers,
Markus.

Re: NAC F-27 'ZK-BXF', 1971 livery

PostPosted: Wed May 13, 2015 7:42 pm
by Ian Warren
:D Matey , super pleased you jumped in here , wicked piece of work B-)

Re: NAC F-27 'ZK-BXF', 1971 livery

PostPosted: Wed May 13, 2015 7:48 pm
by Ian Warren
Wildbillkelso wrote:Seems I have to go for the rego as well...
Talking about regos:
Since the NAC/ANZ F-27s were said to be used on domestic routes only, may I presume that - according to the CAA regulations, as I remember them - any underwing rego was obsolete?
Or did they carry one (just in case of a longer hop...)?

Early paints had rego on the top off the wing and the NAC logo but these were deleted removed in the late 60's .

Re: NAC F-27 'ZK-BXF', 1971 livery

PostPosted: Sat May 16, 2015 10:44 am
by Snowman
Wildbillkelso wrote:Since the NAC/ANZ F-27s were said to be used on domestic routes only, may I presume that - according to the CAA regulations, as I remember them - any underwing rego was obsolete?
Or did they carry one (just in case of a longer hop...)?

Cheers,
Markus.


Not all NAC F27s did domestic work only.
They took over the flights to YSNF Norfolk Island when the Qantas DC-4s to there were finally retired.
Heres a pic of ZK-NAO at YSNF in 1976........

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ZK-NAN in 1976 at YSNF........

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Lawrie.

Re: NAC F-27 'ZK-BXF', 1971 livery

PostPosted: Sat May 16, 2015 11:26 am
by Ian Warren
Nice photos Lawrie B-) Should be recorded both these aircraft are the 500s , required a little extra paint :)

Re: NAC F-27 'ZK-BXF', 1971 livery

PostPosted: Sat May 16, 2015 1:26 pm
by Snowman
Ian Warren wrote:Nice photos Lawrie B-) Should be recorded both these aircraft are the 500s , required a little extra paint :)


Correct Ian, both the quick examples i gave were 500s.
The FIRST ever NZ Friendship into YSNF was F27-100 ZK-BXC ("Koweka"), on 30th June 1973, flown by Captain Jim Pavitt.
NAC started full time Friendship flights there in June 1975, after final retirement of the Qantas DC-4s.

Lawrie.

Re: NAC F-27 'ZK-BXF', 1971 livery

PostPosted: Sat May 16, 2015 1:42 pm
by Snowman
Wildbillkelso wrote:Coming up soon will be NAC's 'ZK-BXF' in its 1971 lazy repainter's red ribbon livery (early WIP, don't mind the foremost passenger window, it's already cut in):

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Any suggestions welcome!

Thanks in advance,
Markus.



Please note Markus,.............
The prop tips of the era were still YELLOW, same as the previous 2 NAC liveries.
The red and white striped tips started in the "Wings of the Nation" NAC livery, and through all the Air New Zealand liveries.

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Lawrie.

Re: NAC F-27 'ZK-BXF', 1971 livery

PostPosted: Sat May 16, 2015 1:47 pm
by Ian Warren
I guess gone the transition periods were there is little or no public opinion , strangely to aircrew had more voice to put to management about required types best use for them back in the day .

Re: Prop tips

PostPosted: Sat May 16, 2015 7:43 pm
by Wildbillkelso
Snowman wrote:The prop tips of the era were still YELLOW, same as the previous 2 NAC liveries.


Thanks for this important detail, mate!
I wasn't yet able to acquire an image of this version with engines not running...

Cheers,
Markus.

Re: Prop tips

PostPosted: Sat May 16, 2015 11:38 pm
by Ian Warren
Wildbillkelso wrote:Thanks for this important detail, mate!
I wasn't yet able to acquire an image of this version with engines not running...

Those F-27s really did live in Hokitika , a brilliant aircraft for this region .. little snippet left off the photo , that has has to be a DC-3 :)

Re: NAC F-27 'ZK-BXF', 1971 livery

PostPosted: Sat May 16, 2015 11:56 pm
by Wildbillkelso
Snowman wrote:The prop tips of the era were still YELLOW, same as the previous 2 NAC liveries.
The red and white striped tips started in the "Wings of the Nation" NAC livery, and through all the Air New Zealand liveries.

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BXG "Kea" also received the NAC/ANZ transitional scheme later on:

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Source: http://w.aussieairliners.org/f-27os/new ... zkbxg.html

By the way:
What did this bird-shaped symbol underneath the cockpit's side window, adjacent to the NAC godwit stand for?

Cheers,
Markus.

Re: NAC F-27 'ZK-BXF', 1971 livery

PostPosted: Sun May 17, 2015 12:08 am
by Ian Warren
That is your old T.E.A.L speed bird logo :)

Re: "Is it a bird?"

PostPosted: Sun May 17, 2015 12:39 am
by Wildbillkelso
So no Tasman Tiger but a flying fish:
http://www.teal.co.nz/teal/TEAL%205.htm

Thanks, mate!

Re: NAC F-27 'ZK-BXF', 1971 livery

PostPosted: Sun May 17, 2015 11:07 am
by Ian Warren
Keeping with the old Empire heritage, this year has been celebrated 1940-2015 75 years of of Air New Zealand , I was T.E.A.L for twenty five years .

Re: NAC F-27 'ZK-BXF', 1971 livery

PostPosted: Sun Apr 26, 2020 11:30 pm
by mac
Anyone got these repaints for the JF F27 Friendship by Markus? I'd like them please, if possible. I can't find them anywhere else as they were exclusive to NZFF. I believe he did more than one NZ repaint for the JF F27. Also Tupolev114 did some too as well, a DCA one and a Mount Cook one and also ZK-RTA. He had them on facebook but it's gone. Thanks in advance.

Re: NAC F-27 'ZK-BXF', 1971 livery

PostPosted: Mon Apr 27, 2020 11:43 am
by BruceR
Send me a PM.

Bruce R