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PostPosted: Thu Apr 17, 2014 9:45 am
by Adrian Brausch
Heya fellas , Jens-Ole Kjølberg has been busy working on a mid life grey / white scheme RNZAF P-3B that is in the works,..we are in urgent need of good or excellent high res tail decals of the white Albatross, blue roundel and red 5 insignia.....any help will be much much appreciated !

Also need pictures of the sonobuoy launcher on the B from the outside..

Can anyone confirm whether the sonobuoy launcher has been removed altogether with the P-3K ?...photo's would lend that to be true but then we are in need of good close up photos to do this ....



AB

PostPosted: Thu Apr 17, 2014 10:44 am
by steelsporran
Any good to you?

PostPosted: Thu Apr 17, 2014 10:47 am
by Ian Warren
I do have stickers here somewhere, not sure if I have the Kestrel - I ll have a look , I have also just phoned Wigram Museum, just your luck the guy that could dig that tail insignia is down in Wanaka with the RNZAF crew.

After the missing MH370 they were throwing buoys out the door ? but in the book "Kiwi Orion's" shows the shoot for when the aircraft is preasurised so not sure about the latest update .

PostPosted: Thu Apr 17, 2014 10:48 am
by Adrian Brausch
steelsporran wrote:
QUOTE (steelsporran @ Apr 17 2014,10:44 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Any good to you?

It's an Albatross by the way.


Hah yes I did actually know that,..momentary lapse of memory,..ah actually after clear preferably high res photos to get a nice sharp insignia on the tail...but thankyou anyway thumbup1.gif

PostPosted: Thu Apr 17, 2014 12:17 pm
by Ian Warren
Unfortunately I don't have what i thought I had, hi-res No.5 squadron stickers, I do have a close but black and white photo showing detail of the Kestrel/Albatross winkyy.gif on a oblique angle, you could wait a week or I could draw the insignia for ya - course in colour .

PostPosted: Thu Apr 17, 2014 12:40 pm
by Adrian Brausch
Ian Warren wrote:
QUOTE (Ian Warren @ Apr 17 2014,12:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Unfortunately I don't have what i thought I had, hi-res No.5 squadron stickers, I do have a close but black and white photo showing detail of the Kestrel/Albatross winkyy.gif on a oblique angle, you could wait a week or I could draw the insignia for ya - course in colour .


That black and white would be worth a look Mr W,..appreciate anything you can dig up smile.gif

PostPosted: Thu Apr 17, 2014 1:03 pm
by Ian Warren
Scanned the photo, but rolleyes.gif .. I again did not save your address, crikey i'm a clunker at times .. currently both Image programs are out so can't place up here.

If you need the artwork be no problems, Coreldraw9/AdobeCS5.5 photo and Illustrator

PostPosted: Sat Apr 19, 2014 11:20 pm
by JensOle
Thanks for the help! Here are some work in progress shots of NZ4204.


NZ4204-1

NZ4204-2

PostPosted: Sun Apr 20, 2014 12:51 am
by Adrian Brausch
welcome to the NZFF Jens !

PostPosted: Sun Apr 20, 2014 1:05 am
by JensOle
Adrian Brausch wrote:
QUOTE (Adrian Brausch @ Apr 19 2014,2:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
welcome to the NZFF Jens !


Thanks!

Is there any FSX sceneries of RNZAF bases to fly the P-3 from?

PostPosted: Sun Apr 20, 2014 1:23 am
by Adrian Brausch
Alot of us use the ORBX Sceneries Jens,..

https://www.fullterrain.com/product_nzni.html
https://www.fullterrain.com/product_nzsi.html

Not sure of any RNZAF FSX Freeware sceneries,..I am sure someone reading this will be able to shed some light on that

BTW the P-3's are looking awesome bud !

Have a look through this thread,..

http://nzff.org/forum/index.php?s=&sho...t&p=8221019

PostPosted: Sun Apr 20, 2014 9:12 am
by Ian Warren
Welcome JensOle, you have really done that P3 justice, looking superb cool.gif

PostPosted: Sun Apr 20, 2014 10:31 pm
by JensOle
Ian Warren wrote:
QUOTE (Ian Warren @ Apr 19 2014,11:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Welcome JensOle, you have really done that P3 justice, looking superb cool.gif


Thanks a lot! The plan is to include one 60s repaint in the main B pack and then a K late 80's/early 90s for the B "updates" pack together with a Norwegian p-3N.

Another question, do any of you know the new triangular decal seen on Orion propeller blades? Back in the days it was just the hamilton standard badge, but on newer blades there is a new decal. For me it might seem like a danger decal which conforms to the ISO warning signs. Very similar to the laser warning sign which is on the AN/PEQ-2a ir aiming laser I have on my military HK416.

PostPosted: Sun Apr 20, 2014 10:50 pm
by Ian Warren
I'll do a scratching around here and what I can dig up for you Jens... again, Thanks for your effort and superb work smile.gif

PostPosted: Mon Apr 21, 2014 1:37 am
by JensOle
Hello again,

Another question; was the NZ Orions delivered with the RAF D roundel?

The pic bellow is labelled 1966 and shows all 5 with the RAF roundel.
http://www.pinterest.com/pin/423127327460735364/

So a 1966 scheme should have RAF D roundels, RAF font "0X" (x=ac nr) painted on nose and tail (no 5 sqn logo on tail)? When was the NZ roundel painted on the aircraft?

PostPosted: Mon Apr 21, 2014 9:41 am
by Ian Warren
JensOle wrote:
QUOTE (JensOle @ Apr 21 2014,2:37 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Another question; was the NZ Orions delivered with the RAF D roundel?

The pic bellow is labelled 1966 and shows all 5 with the RAF roundel.
http://www.pinterest.com/pin/423127327460735364/

So a 1966 scheme should have RAF D roundels, RAF font "0X" (x=ac nr) painted on nose and tail (no 5 sqn logo on tail)? When was the NZ roundel painted on the aircraft?

Yes indeed it was standard RAF roundel and font, the aircraft had the fern added in 1967 - these change when replacing the markings with the kiwi in 1973

PostPosted: Mon Apr 21, 2014 10:18 am
by JensOle
Ian Warren wrote:
QUOTE (Ian Warren @ Apr 20 2014,11:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yes indeed it was standard RAF roundel and font, the aircraft had the fern added in 1967 - these change when replacing the markings with the kiwi in 1973


Thanks for the answers! I hope you can help me with another question as well! What was the correct name/designation for RNZAF Base Auckland in 1966? (for the aircraft.cfg file info and readme)

PostPosted: Mon Apr 21, 2014 10:21 am
by Ian Warren
Jens, I put the word out about the propeller markings here to see if we get a response as I still won't get a reply from Wigram for a couple of days
http://rnzaf.proboards.com/thread/21258/p3...ngs-close-photo

JensOle wrote:
QUOTE (JensOle @ Apr 21 2014,11:18 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Thanks for the answers! I hope you can help me with another question as well! What was the correct name/designation for RNZAF Base Auckland in 1966? (for the aircraft.cfg file info and readme)

The base name is Whenuapai NZWP.

PostPosted: Mon Apr 21, 2014 10:44 am
by Timmo
JensOle wrote:
QUOTE (JensOle @ Apr 20 2014,1:05 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Thanks!

Is there any FSX sceneries of RNZAF bases to fly the P-3 from?


Whenuapai is included in the VLC Nth Island airfield package smile.gif




PostPosted: Mon Apr 21, 2014 10:59 am
by JensOle
Thanks for the scenery heads up!

Back to my cfg entry:

Lockheed P-3B (LW) Orion "NZ4202" (152887) of 5 Sqn RNZAF, based at Whenuapai AB in 1966.

Sounds right?