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PostPosted: Mon May 07, 2012 9:36 pm
by Fauville
Finally turned to the dark side ninja.gif after being away from simming for a bit, a bit behind the times, but...

Am now in need of a spitty for my new FSX install, so....

Recommendations please, so far I have found A2A MkI,II version, looks very nice, or
Just flight Proto/ Mk I pack (battle of Britain) version, or
Just Flight MkV pack or
Real air Mk IV / XIV versions, again very nice looking, but dated?? (2008)

Is that it, any I have missed?

Informed advice requested please smile.gif

PostPosted: Mon May 07, 2012 10:08 pm
by Ian Warren
Directly A2A .. but requires the accusim module to go with it .

PostPosted: Mon May 07, 2012 10:10 pm
by goingboeing
definitely the a2a spit especially with accu-feel, the stall effects and realism etc are wicked.

PostPosted: Mon May 07, 2012 10:22 pm
by Ian Warren
Accufeel is another module already built into Accusimed Spitty

PostPosted: Mon May 07, 2012 11:07 pm
by Adrian Brausch
the Realair Spit is very much not dated,..superb inside and out,..doesnt have the accusim but if that doesnt bother you then i'd def get it !!

PostPosted: Mon May 07, 2012 11:25 pm
by Ian Warren
Your are very right Adrian , it is the higher performance Spitty .. and would work a dream with Accufeel , another with that package you get the early Mk9 and the modified later with change in tails then saying that mentioned get the Mk14 .. pity not the teardrop variant thats currently getting rebuilt after Sir Tims mishap in 1996 but still a wicked one nun the less-

So its the two to choose from cool.gif

PostPosted: Mon May 07, 2012 11:34 pm
by Adamski
Absolutely NO CONTEST .... has to be A2A. The RealAir one is good, but the A2A one (with Accusim) is 500% better ... honest!

PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2012 9:47 am
by Splitpin
Adrian Brausch wrote:
QUOTE (Adrian Brausch @ May 7 2012,11:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
the Realair Spit is very much not dated,..superb inside and out,..doesnt have the accusim but if that doesnt bother you then i'd def get it !!


Agree AB , and your sound addon brings it right up with the rest of them thumbup1.gif

PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2012 10:01 am
by Splitpin
Adamski wrote:
QUOTE (Adamski @ May 7 2012,11:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Absolutely NO CONTEST .... has to be A2A. The RealAir one is good, but the A2A one (with Accusim) is 500% better ... honest!


Thats a very bold statement Adarama ....."500%".....it all depends on which model you like, as in version. I dont care too much for the early models, and if you want or like the Griffon engines, then you cant go past Realair.

My point of view varies from most , as Im more interested in the visual side of things, so accusim is a bit of a non event as far as Im concerned......but thats just my 10 cents worth winkyy.gif

PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2012 10:25 am
by chopper_nut
Just for me, after flying the A2As Spit, the Real Air one just doesnt do it for me. A2A have raised the bar so much that everything else seems dated now. Having said that, the Real Air Spit is a very good representation of the later models, its the lack of system modeling for me that lets it down for me.

PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2012 10:50 am
by AndrewJamez
chopper_nut wrote:
QUOTE (chopper_nut @ May 8 2012,10:25 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Just for me, after flying the A2As Spit, the Real Air one just doesnt do it for me. A2A have raised the bar so much that everything else seems dated now. Having said that, the Real Air Spit is a very good representation of the later models, its the lack of system modeling for me that lets it down for me.


I agree. Realair spits are great for sceen shots of the later models, I for one wish A2A had done the classic MkIX or later but they didnt. But hopping in a Realair Mk anything doesnt give you the experience of flying a spitty that accusim can provide, period.

PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2012 1:51 pm
by Fauville
Not a peep re the Just flight ones, so I'll leave those alone.

So now to make the difficult decision, seems to be A2A with the Accusim addon ($70 ish) or Realair with the 2 higher performance Spits, and throw in Accu feel as well (for about the same price) and have the added bonus of having a bit of realism thrown in for other aircraft in the hanger.....I guess it comes down to whether I want to be spending time fiddling with radiator settings, rpm and constantly looking at the oil temp and pressure gauges waiting for the engine to blow, or ripping around the sky enjoying the scenery (which I need to look at adding to also smile.gif )

Thanks all for the welcome advise, I'll let you know in due time which way I go

PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2012 1:55 pm
by Ian Warren
A thought , A2A have a MkV incoming as well .. but as far as aircraft op's are concern , it really is impressive .

PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2012 2:03 pm
by Naki
I have the Realair Spitfire which was a great model when it was released (the Realair Mark IX is one of the reasons I got FSX)..and still is in many ways but I'm hanging out for A2As Spitfire MkV (I prefer the later Mark V, IX, XVI)

PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2012 2:18 pm
by Fauville
I think I can wait a little longer then for a MK V, any ETA?

PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2012 3:49 pm
by Ian Warren
All quite currently on that front as betarising a Muzzie cool.gif

PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2012 5:59 pm
by Adamski
Fauville wrote:
QUOTE (Fauville @ May 8 2012,1:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
So now to make the difficult decision, seems to be A2A with the Accusim addon ($70 ish) or Realair with the 2 higher performance Spits, and throw in Accu feel as well (for about the same price) and have the added bonus of having a bit of realism thrown in for other aircraft in the hanger.....I guess it comes down to whether I want to be spending time fiddling with radiator settings, rpm and constantly looking at the oil temp and pressure gauges waiting for the engine to blow, or ripping around the sky enjoying the scenery (which I need to look at adding to also smile.gif )

Accufeel is a great little utility - but unnecessary for any of the later A2A aircraft (as they already have those features programmed in). It doesn't get in the way, though if you run both at once.

Accusim - for the engine management - is great fun, and adds a whole new dimension to "flying". After a few Accusim sessions, I can't even drive down the road in my car without scanning the temperature gauge every minute laugh.gif.

@Splitpin - I agree that externals are more important (for you!) ... but the detail on the A2A models/paints is way better than on the RealAir. As Ian says - once we have a MkV ...

PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2012 7:13 pm
by AndrewJamez
As Ian says - once we have a MkV ...
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Trouble is for me that the MkV still has a single radiator and that blunt prop spinner. Post MkV spittys you get dual radiators and a sharper looking spinner that is more the classic looking spitfire. Also Exhaust stacks are 6 per side not 3 as per early spits. Dont know why A2A are not moving from these early variants. Would be minimal modeling changes. I know they dont like main stream but main steam is what people want.

PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2012 7:33 pm
by Ian Warren
AndrewJamez wrote:
QUOTE (AndrewJamez @ May 8 2012,8:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Trouble is for me that the MkV still has a single radiator and that blunt prop spinner. Post MkV spittys you get dual radiators and a sharper looking spinner that is more the classic looking spitfire. Also Exhaust stacks are 6 per side not 3 as per early spits

Many of these Spitfires become a standard within the early period in the Desert-mid/india/pacific region -Vs hold there own and many variants of the type .. European theater was only a - and very good fix for the next period German generation fighter , 109 Fs & 190s - 1942 prove the V to hold its own at ALTs low/Med levels - gave the base for the MK9 .. then covered the gap .

A2A .. Why did they look at the early MkI/II - Sweet answer - The Battle of Britain smile.gif

PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2012 5:53 pm
by coltis
steam and smoke all over the show you will need a first class steam ticket to fly the bloody thind .