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by **Ian Warren** » Sat Mar 05, 2011 12:21 pm

With so much happening with this aircraft at the moment come freeware,'Manfred Jahn', the beginning off air transport through out the world , The Douglas DC-3

To the payware options , JUST FLIGHT has this , a 100MB demo , only this one livery and keep it below 1000 FT .. http://www.justflight.com/

Since i,m following another design group , VERTIGO STUDIO,s DC-3 , last months prize giver , http://www.vertigostudios.co.uk/

What you choose is now so varied , my preference has not been released yet and still a work in progress .

by **Olderndirt** » Sat Mar 05, 2011 2:05 pm

Just for laughs, here are the two suspects - Manfred's on top and the oh so short flight JustFlight demo underneath. Personally, I think Manfred's flies better - you be the judge on appearance.

by **Ian Warren** » Sat Mar 05, 2011 4:07 pm

Dave - Frankly , id go the freeware currently , bloody good compare , it am a 'Dak' man from the past , to compare and so many popping out , Great screens

by **Splitpin** » Sat Mar 05, 2011 4:09 pm

Ive got the just flight Dak, and find it pretty good...nice to see the engine variants nicely modeled, and other things like antenna placement , astrodomes etc...........Ill beam some screens later tonight.....see what you think Mr "stop gap" warren

by **Ian Warren** » Sat Mar 05, 2011 4:47 pm

Be interested to see the full package in Screens , 'Stop Gap' indeed , i think Vertigo will win with there pay ware , the Just Flight Lockheed Constellation , i was very disappointed after putting a little input , however its good to have a a freebie and check her out , .. next parcel think will win ... its all in the learning and reading about then putting into practice makes the fun

by **connor** » Sat Mar 05, 2011 5:11 pm

How far away is the Vertigo Studio's DC-3? Definitely will buy when that comes out!

by **Olderndirt** » Sun Mar 06, 2011 4:17 am

Don't think 'JustFlight' made many friends with their 100MB demo. While their interior is very well done, the name of the game is flying. After the gear's up and you've figured out which way's north, you're done - black screens everywhere. No panel, no forward vision but your scenery's still sailing along in the gaps.

by **Ian Warren** » Sun Mar 06, 2011 10:36 am

connor wrote:
QUOTE (connor @ Mar 5 2011,6:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
How far away is the Vertigo Studio's DC-3? Definitely will buy when that comes out!

No word on the VS Dak , but previews cant be to far away .

Olderndirt wrote:
QUOTE (Olderndirt @ Mar 6 2011,5:17 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Don't think 'JustFlight' made many friends with their 100MB demo. While their interior is very well done, the name of the game is flying. After the gear's up and you've figured out which way's north, you're done - black screens everywhere. No panel, no forward vision but your scenery's still sailing along in the gaps.

Dave as KC pointed out , fly it below 1000ft and all works fine .

by **Wildbillkelso** » Sun Mar 06, 2011 9:23 pm

Thanks for the HU concerning the "Demo Dak", Ian!

I gave it a try - and must say I'm not too much impressed at all!

Of course I'm heavily spoilt as a long-term MAAM user, but IMHO, this C-47 rendition doesn't cut the mustard:
The VC sure looks very nice, but the whole thing is - like many of the JF products I've been testing so far - a real frame killer!
Sounds are rather ridiculous with no remarkable transition from idle to full throttle, and the distinctive "growl" of the Twin Wasps is missing completely. Until its unfortunate crash a year ago, I had the pleasure to see (and hear!) one of the last european-based C-47s here at Berlin on a weekly basis climbing out over my house, so I rather know how the real deal should sound like. I really can't imagine that the flap actuators are the loudest part of the sound suite, as done by JF.

My bottom line:
Take Manfred's outstanding Dakota (even if the front window frames currently aren't 100% accurate) and add the MAAM sounds. There you go with the perfect FSX C-47!

It's of course a nice gesture from JustFlight to allow this "try-before-buy", but it's hard for me to imagine that the JF rendition is able to win the competition (if there's any) with Manfred Jahn's Gooney Bird!

Maybe I'm biased - so you'd better try on your own...

Cheers,
Markus.

by **connor** » Mon Mar 07, 2011 8:14 am

Wildbillkelso wrote:
QUOTE (Wildbillkelso @ Mar 6 2011,10:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Sounds are rather ridiculous with no remarkable transition from idle to full throttle, and the distinctive "growl" of the Twin Wasps is missing completely.

I didn't realise that the JF Dak had Twin Wasps? I thought it used the Wright R-1820's?

by **Ian Warren** » Mon Mar 07, 2011 10:25 am

connor wrote:
QUOTE (connor @ Mar 7 2011,9:14 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I didn't realise that the JF Dak had Twin Wasps? I thought it used the Wright R-1820's?

The DC-3 /C-47 -Dakota used Wright Cyclone R1820 , Twin Wasp R1830-90 , Pratt and Whitney R1830-92 , all very similar engines

by **Splitpin** » Mon Mar 07, 2011 3:09 pm

Ian Warren wrote:
QUOTE (Ian Warren @ Mar 7 2011,11:25 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The DC-3 /C-47 -Dakota used Wright Cyclone R1820 , Twin Wasp R1830-90 , Pratt and Whitney R1830-92 , all very similar engines

Both engines are included....one hasnt got the cowl flaps....the wright i think. Having read all the comments about this (JF Dak) Im strating to think i may have fallen into the same pit as Ian did with the sunderland.....but not as bad. Markus, your right about the sound....not quite right....or Pratt for that matter

Hmmmmm......Ive got it now, but it has its good points as well.....and being an "external" kind of guy, it screens up quite nice....

by **Ian Warren** » Mon Mar 07, 2011 9:43 pm

Hells , end off the day you could throw the sound package off a .. hmm now what ! .. we have P/W over the city most days .. i will listen and a will guess .

by **connor** » Tue Mar 08, 2011 8:31 am

You could steal the sound off the Aerosoft Cat.

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