Mount Cook Airlines HS.748

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Postby Wildbillkelso » Sat Oct 16, 2010 3:18 am

Dear folks!

Time for another "screaming Hawker":







It's ZK-CWJ "Aorangi" in its 1977 livery, as shown here:
http://www.airliners.net/photo/Mount-Cook-...-748/0004616/L/

Has anyone an idea about the lettering on the aft fuselage, right below the registration?
Haven't found any closeups yet...

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Postby Wildbillkelso » Sat Oct 16, 2010 5:05 am

Don't bother my question - got the answer at cbfsim:





As you can see, the door's and window's outline width has also been corrected.
Now for the starboard side...
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Postby mavman » Sat Oct 16, 2010 7:26 am

Markus you are the man! Really looking forward to this one! wub.gif
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Postby Splitpin » Sat Oct 16, 2010 9:08 am

notworthy.gif Markus.....which model is that (Rick piper) ?......that early scheme was really nice.....solid colours, big bold titles....real 70's thumbup1.gif

It also looked good on the Dak...with the big windows winkyy.gif
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Postby AlisterC » Sat Oct 16, 2010 11:16 am

Looking good! That plane has to be one of my favourite freewares!
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Postby Ian Warren » Sat Oct 16, 2010 12:18 pm

Markus thumbup1.gif , the blue has to be reduce to a more pail colour , I have three incomplete paints here , one used in the Evcac used during end off the Vietnam war , the logo then change to MOUNT COOK LINE with a red cross on the forward fuse .. working on the very early intro 748 , this has photo real engine texture course the scheme your current .
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Postby dbcunnz » Sat Oct 16, 2010 3:37 pm

Hi Marcus here is another paint job for you to have a go at this is the Whale Watch Britten Norman Islander.



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Postby Wildbillkelso » Sat Oct 16, 2010 11:27 pm

Thanks a lot, guys!

Splitpin wrote:
QUOTE (Splitpin @ Oct 16 2010, 09:08 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
...which model is that (Rick piper)?

Yep. Probably one of the finest and most elaborated freeware packages ever done - at least in my eyes...

The later Mount Cook livery (on ZK-MCB) is already included in the default livery set. I'm not too statisfied with this one, as it's done in DXT3. But I'm still a little hesitant to do a repaint that's already done before by somebody else. Don't want to have this "tee-hee: I can do better than you!" tongue.gif effect...

@ Ian:
Got any pics or references?
There are several pics on this livery at airliners.net. Due to the time they were taken, I don't trust too much a certain colour shade, as they are scanned slides or negatives. The colour I used is an average value taken from the various shades, but it won't be a big thing to change it. A standard designation of the blue tone, a comparable shade or even a RGB value would be too much to ask for, eh?

@ Doug:
Nice one!
I do have the Marcel Kuhnt Islander (and the respective paint kit), but some kind of high-resolution photograph of the fin's artwork would be inevitable to do this repaint.

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Postby mavman » Sun Oct 17, 2010 12:00 am

I think a repaint in the later scheme would be a great idea, maybe a different rego would save you raining on someone elses parade, ZK-MCJ maybe?
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Postby dbcunnz » Sun Oct 17, 2010 12:11 am

Wildbillkelso wrote:
QUOTE (Wildbillkelso @ Oct 17 2010, 12:27 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
@ Doug:
Nice one!
I do have the Marcel Kuhnt Islander (and the respective paint kit), but some kind of high-resolution photograph of the fin's artwork would be inevitable to do this repaint.

Cheers,
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Postby Wildbillkelso » Sun Oct 17, 2010 3:21 am

mavman wrote:
QUOTE (mavman @ Oct 17 2010, 12:00 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think a repaint in the later scheme would be a great idea, maybe a different rego would save you raining on someone elses parade, ZK-MCJ maybe?


Took another look at the MCB repaint:
It looks better than I thought in the sim. The DXT3 artefacts are quite visible in PSP when extremely zoomed in but disappear in the sim, observed from normal distance. I think it can stay as is.

@ Doug:
Yes - that's exactly what I was looking for. I'll see what I an do.
The Islander's creator reserves his right to agree to uploading repaints, so I'll have to contact him first. Takes me some readjusting to post my request on him in german... winkyy.gif

Back to "Aorangi":
Judging from the pics at airliners.net, it seems to me like the wings were left in bare metal with the wing root panels painted gray. So this is how it looks by now:





Note the very decent exhaust stain on the tailplane, as the Darts are said to be non-smokers.

Can anyone confirm those blank wings?
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Postby dbcunnz » Sun Oct 17, 2010 1:20 pm

Wildbillkelso wrote:
QUOTE (Wildbillkelso @ Oct 17 2010, 04:21 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Back to "Aorangi":
Judging from the pics at airliners.net, it seems to me like the wings were left in bare metal with the wing root panels painted gray. So this is how it looks by now:

Can anyone confirm those blank wings?

Hi Marcus I have a friend who flew for Mt Cook years ago and he has a lot of photos of the Mt Cook fleet so will get in touch with him and see what I can scan from his photos if that would be any help

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Postby Ian Warren » Sun Oct 17, 2010 1:24 pm

Markus , Quite typical got side tracked , as soon as Rick released this i was painting , all the way through it operation the engine naccells were polished aluminium .


I had Alister Mcleod played with it here cool.gif , he flew the 748 from Hatfield , his wife a Stewardess flew its home , New Zealand , the 748 test pilot . The have a
Seniors night and many are avid flightsim people , course Al fell in love with the model .
The tail logo , words are only 'Mount Cook Lilly' the font is quite a bit smaller and thin , less bold .

I'll send these files to you too use , did you want me to finish the engine , last parts have to be built and constructed using panels .

Smoke, exhaust stains on the tailplane , did happen over long period .
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Postby Wildbillkelso » Sun Oct 17, 2010 8:45 pm

Your paint looks awesome, Ian!
Why the heck didn't you release it? blink.gif

Lazy as I am, i copied the "Mount Cook Lily" logo from my previous Twin Otter. But considering these pics (borrowed from airliners.net), I think "The Mount Cook Lily" isn't this wrong:





Your polished nacelles look great too!
I'd love to make use of them and I'd be glad if you'd send them (file Fuselage748left_T.bmp) to me:
mhellwig [at] mkb-berlin [dot] de

Somewhere I've read about the red cross painted over for some humanitarian mission. Do you have any further details on this?

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Postby deaneb » Sun Oct 17, 2010 9:18 pm

Markus - if you google "mount cook 748" and select images, the fourth image shows a lot closer to the actually blue used. Sorry I don't have time to upload this image.
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Postby Ian Warren » Sun Oct 17, 2010 9:27 pm

Thanx Markus , did these at the time working on Dunedin scenery as a distraction away from AGNs , they were not released simply not complete and scenery intrivenend .
The 'Mount Cook Lilly' was the standard , 'The' was removed early in the piece , as with the blue is from washed out photo maybe , i adjusted from books and photos here .
The humanitarian mission, had the pilot here , i must dig up the old photos and post here .
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Postby Ian Warren » Sun Oct 17, 2010 9:36 pm

Edit : , deleted copy , so add to .. the photo dose not show its true colour
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Postby Wildbillkelso » Sun Oct 17, 2010 10:04 pm

@ Deane:
Thanks for the hint! This pics obviously shows ZK-MCA at Queenstown (letter "A" at the nosewheel door!). Comparable pic here:
http://www.airliners.net/photo/Mount-Cook-...-748/1230465/L/

This blue shade appears quite contrary to this shot of MCA here:
http://www.airliners.net/photo/Mount-Cook-...-748/0004617/L/
but this pic also looks quite underexposed...
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Postby Ian Warren » Mon Oct 18, 2010 12:19 pm

The first link shows nearer to the correct colour , you could be right Markus , the second seems to be washed out , maybe aged , i,m trying to find a photo i have here .
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Postby creator2003 » Mon Oct 18, 2010 3:13 pm

Looking pretty winkyy.gif
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