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PostPosted: Sun Aug 03, 2008 8:09 pm
by Toz
I was unsure where to post this, but as it is MOSTLY the scenery which has suffered, I will post here.

As an old mainframe operator I backup by REFLEX ( never lose all your hard work etc / guages etc ). So when I was forced to do a full reinstall due to slightly overzealous use of a cleanup tool , I decided to backup my Addon Scenery , and my Scenery / World / Scenery. ( along with guages, aircraft etc ).

Then I reinstalled. It took much forum searching ( avsim etc ) to find out why / how all my old airports were still present ! But the worst bit was duplicate coastlines. ( after installing Topo and 75m , and Canty ) I applied Norms patch , but ......I still had two coastlines .....it was as if the sim was seeing two sets of scenery.

Was this what it was doing ? I went and changed the folder names ( for the backups ), but that didnt help....Snowman has told me to use the .BAK file extension, and I am certain this will do the trick. But if I had wanted a FULL CLEAN install, are there files in My Documents / ME / Application Data / Microsoft / FS9 that also require deletion ??? Does doing and UN install BEFORE doing the RE install do this ?

Can I go into My Docs/ Flight Sim and nuke all those" saved flights " ? ( I am just trying to be careful here.....I suspect this presents no problems, but gee whizz elmo, after several weeks I was starting to get cranky ( er ) .

I figure I am half way to sorting this out but any comment on correct procedure for running a CLEAN reinstall, and how to alleviate this dual coastline thing would be much appreciated.


Er......I also have white buildings, which dissapear when I get close. This is tree ( Matts Trees ? ) not being installed in EZ Scenery ??? I have his trees in RWY12, but the RWY12 texture dont do the EZ Scenery textures job ? Or possibly certain other EZ Sceneries that I dont yet have installed ???

I feel like SUCH a beginner again.......its REALLY embarrassing.......sheeesh.....

Yours etc ( hiding under his desk ) TOZ biggrin.gif

PostPosted: Sun Aug 03, 2008 8:27 pm
by toprob
Be aware that not all scenery can be just restored from a backup -- the Topo in particular. The Topo installer doesn't just copy files, it renames some files to deactivate them. If you did a reinstall of FS2004, then installed the backed-up files, you'd end up with a bit of a mess, as the files which should be deactivated would still show up.
That is probably what you are seeing with duplicate coastlines -- both the default and Topo are showing because the default coastlines have not been deactivated.

PostPosted: Mon Aug 04, 2008 11:22 am
by Snowman
I agree with Rob on the coastlines,............ i made the same mistake once, a long time ago. Un-install the Topo first, to re-name files to default, before you uninstall FS, and re-install Topo with the fresh install of FS.
Heres a list of the files you need to rename to regain your Topo NZ coastlines as they should be,..................

RENAME this filename.................................................* to this filename......................................................................*

RenameFile( TARGETDIR ^ "\\Scenery\\Ocen\\scenery\\HL992470.bgl", TARGETDIR ^ "\\Scenery\\Ocen\\scenery\\HL992470.bglx" );
RenameFile( TARGETDIR ^ "\\Scenery\\Ocen\\scenery\\HL992480.bgl", TARGETDIR ^ "\\Scenery\\Ocen\\scenery\\HL992480.bglx" );
RenameFile( TARGETDIR ^ "\\Scenery\\Ocen\\scenery\\HL993440.bgl", TARGETDIR ^ "\\Scenery\\Ocen\\scenery\\HL993440.bglx" );
RenameFile( TARGETDIR ^ "\\Scenery\\Ocen\\scenery\\HL993460.bgl", TARGETDIR ^ "\\Scenery\\Ocen\\scenery\\HL993460.bglx" );
RenameFile( TARGETDIR ^ "\\Scenery\\Ocen\\scenery\\HL993470.bgl", TARGETDIR ^ "\\Scenery\\Ocen\\scenery\\HL993470.bglx" );
RenameFile( TARGETDIR ^ "\\Scenery\\Ocen\\scenery\\HL993480.bgl", TARGETDIR ^ "\\Scenery\\Ocen\\scenery\\HL993480.bglx" );
RenameFile( TARGETDIR ^ "\\Scenery\\Ocen\\scenery\\HL994440.bgl", TARGETDIR ^ "\\Scenery\\Ocen\\scenery\\HL994440.bglx" );
RenameFile( TARGETDIR ^ "\\Scenery\\Ocen\\scenery\\HL994450.bgl", TARGETDIR ^ "\\Scenery\\Ocen\\scenery\\HL994450.bglx" );
RenameFile( TARGETDIR ^ "\\Scenery\\Ocen\\scenery\\HL994460.bgl", TARGETDIR ^ "\\Scenery\\Ocen\\scenery\\HL994460.bglx" );
RenameFile( TARGETDIR ^ "\\Scenery\\Ocen\\scenery\\HL994470.bgl", TARGETDIR ^ "\\Scenery\\Ocen\\scenery\\HL994470.bglx" );
RenameFile( TARGETDIR ^ "\\Scenery\\Ocen\\scenery\\HL995450.bgl", TARGETDIR ^ "\\Scenery\\Ocen\\scenery\\HL995450.bglx" );
RenameFile( TARGETDIR ^ "\\Scenery\\Ocen\\scenery\\HL995460.bgl", TARGETDIR ^ "\\Scenery\\Ocen\\scenery\\HL995460.bglx" );

RenameFile( TARGETDIR ^ "\\Scenery\\Ocen\\scenery\\HP992470.bgl", TARGETDIR ^ "\\Scenery\\Ocen\\scenery\\HP992470.bglx" );
RenameFile( TARGETDIR ^ "\\Scenery\\Ocen\\scenery\\HP992480.bgl", TARGETDIR ^ "\\Scenery\\Ocen\\scenery\\HP992480.bglx" );
RenameFile( TARGETDIR ^ "\\Scenery\\Ocen\\scenery\\HP993440.bgl", TARGETDIR ^ "\\Scenery\\Ocen\\scenery\\HP993440.bglx" );
RenameFile( TARGETDIR ^ "\\Scenery\\Ocen\\scenery\\HP993460.bgl", TARGETDIR ^ "\\Scenery\\Ocen\\scenery\\HP993460.bglx" );
RenameFile( TARGETDIR ^ "\\Scenery\\Ocen\\scenery\\HP993470.bgl", TARGETDIR ^ "\\Scenery\\Ocen\\scenery\\HP993470.bglx" );
RenameFile( TARGETDIR ^ "\\Scenery\\Ocen\\scenery\\HP993480.bgl", TARGETDIR ^ "\\Scenery\\Ocen\\scenery\\HP993480.bglx" );
RenameFile( TARGETDIR ^ "\\Scenery\\Ocen\\scenery\\HP994440.bgl", TARGETDIR ^ "\\Scenery\\Ocen\\scenery\\HP994440.bglx" );
RenameFile( TARGETDIR ^ "\\Scenery\\Ocen\\scenery\\HP994450.bgl", TARGETDIR ^ "\\Scenery\\Ocen\\scenery\\HP994450.bglx" );
RenameFile( TARGETDIR ^ "\\Scenery\\Ocen\\scenery\\HP994460.bgl", TARGETDIR ^ "\\Scenery\\Ocen\\scenery\\HP994460.bglx" );
RenameFile( TARGETDIR ^ "\\Scenery\\Ocen\\scenery\\HP994470.bgl", TARGETDIR ^ "\\Scenery\\Ocen\\scenery\\HP994470.bglx" );
RenameFile( TARGETDIR ^ "\\Scenery\\Ocen\\scenery\\HP995450.bgl", TARGETDIR ^ "\\Scenery\\Ocen\\scenery\\HP995450.bglx" );
RenameFile( TARGETDIR ^ "\\Scenery\\Ocen\\scenery\\HP995460.bgl", TARGETDIR ^ "\\Scenery\\Ocen\\scenery\\HP995460.bglx" );

RenameFile( TARGETDIR ^ "\\Scenery\\Ocen\\scenery\\ST992470.bgl", TARGETDIR ^ "\\Scenery\\Ocen\\scenery\\ST992470.bglx" );
RenameFile( TARGETDIR ^ "\\Scenery\\Ocen\\scenery\\ST992480.bgl", TARGETDIR ^ "\\Scenery\\Ocen\\scenery\\ST992480.bglx" );
RenameFile( TARGETDIR ^ "\\Scenery\\Ocen\\scenery\\ST993460.bgl", TARGETDIR ^ "\\Scenery\\Ocen\\scenery\\ST993460.bglx" );
RenameFile( TARGETDIR ^ "\\Scenery\\Ocen\\scenery\\ST993470.bgl", TARGETDIR ^ "\\Scenery\\Ocen\\scenery\\ST993470.bglx" );
RenameFile( TARGETDIR ^ "\\Scenery\\Ocen\\scenery\\ST993480.bgl", TARGETDIR ^ "\\Scenery\\Ocen\\scenery\\ST993480.bglx" );
RenameFile( TARGETDIR ^ "\\Scenery\\Ocen\\scenery\\ST994440.bgl", TARGETDIR ^ "\\Scenery\\Ocen\\scenery\\ST994440.bglx" );
RenameFile( TARGETDIR ^ "\\Scenery\\Ocen\\scenery\\ST994450.bgl", TARGETDIR ^ "\\Scenery\\Ocen\\scenery\\ST994450.bglx" );
RenameFile( TARGETDIR ^ "\\Scenery\\Ocen\\scenery\\ST994460.bgl", TARGETDIR ^ "\\Scenery\\Ocen\\scenery\\ST994460.bglx" );
RenameFile( TARGETDIR ^ "\\Scenery\\Ocen\\scenery\\ST994470.bgl", TARGETDIR ^ "\\Scenery\\Ocen\\scenery\\ST994470.bglx" );
RenameFile( TARGETDIR ^ "\\Scenery\\Ocen\\scenery\\ST995450.bgl", TARGETDIR ^ "\\Scenery\\Ocen\\scenery\\ST995450.bglx" );
RenameFile( TARGETDIR ^ "\\Scenery\\Ocen\\scenery\\ST995460.bgl", TARGETDIR ^ "\\Scenery\\Ocen\\scenery\\ST995460.bglx" );

RenameFile( TARGETDIR ^ "\\Scenery\\Ocen\\scenery\\RD992470.bgl", TARGETDIR ^ "\\Scenery\\Ocen\\scenery\\RD992470.bglx" );
RenameFile( TARGETDIR ^ "\\Scenery\\Ocen\\scenery\\RD992480.bgl", TARGETDIR ^ "\\Scenery\\Ocen\\scenery\\RD992480.bglx" );
RenameFile( TARGETDIR ^ "\\Scenery\\Ocen\\scenery\\RD993460.bgl", TARGETDIR ^ "\\Scenery\\Ocen\\scenery\\RD993460.bglx" );
RenameFile( TARGETDIR ^ "\\Scenery\\Ocen\\scenery\\RD993470.bgl", TARGETDIR ^ "\\Scenery\\Ocen\\scenery\\RD993470.bglx" );
RenameFile( TARGETDIR ^ "\\Scenery\\Ocen\\scenery\\RD993480.bgl", TARGETDIR ^ "\\Scenery\\Ocen\\scenery\\RD993480.bglx" );
RenameFile( TARGETDIR ^ "\\Scenery\\Ocen\\scenery\\RD994440.bgl", TARGETDIR ^ "\\Scenery\\Ocen\\scenery\\RD994440.bglx" );
RenameFile( TARGETDIR ^ "\\Scenery\\Ocen\\scenery\\RD994450.bgl", TARGETDIR ^ "\\Scenery\\Ocen\\scenery\\RD994450.bglx" );
RenameFile( TARGETDIR ^ "\\Scenery\\Ocen\\scenery\\RD994460.bgl", TARGETDIR ^ "\\Scenery\\Ocen\\scenery\\RD994460.bglx" );
RenameFile( TARGETDIR ^ "\\Scenery\\Ocen\\scenery\\RD994470.bgl", TARGETDIR ^ "\\Scenery\\Ocen\\scenery\\RD994470.bglx" );
RenameFile( TARGETDIR ^ "\\Scenery\\Ocen\\scenery\\RD995450.bgl", TARGETDIR ^ "\\Scenery\\Ocen\\scenery\\RD995450.bglx" );
RenameFile( TARGETDIR ^ "\\Scenery\\Ocen\\scenery\\RD995460.bgl", TARGETDIR ^ "\\Scenery\\Ocen\\scenery\\RD995460.bglx" );

RenameFile( TARGETDIR ^ "\\Scenery\\Ocen\\scenery\\RR992480.bgl", TARGETDIR ^ "\\Scenery\\Ocen\\scenery\\RR992480.bglx" );
RenameFile( TARGETDIR ^ "\\Scenery\\Ocen\\scenery\\RR993460.bgl", TARGETDIR ^ "\\Scenery\\Ocen\\scenery\\RR993460.bglx" );
RenameFile( TARGETDIR ^ "\\Scenery\\Ocen\\scenery\\RR993470.bgl", TARGETDIR ^ "\\Scenery\\Ocen\\scenery\\RR993470.bglx" );
RenameFile( TARGETDIR ^ "\\Scenery\\Ocen\\scenery\\RR993480.bgl", TARGETDIR ^ "\\Scenery\\Ocen\\scenery\\RR993480.bglx" );
RenameFile( TARGETDIR ^ "\\Scenery\\Ocen\\scenery\\RR994440.bgl", TARGETDIR ^ "\\Scenery\\Ocen\\scenery\\RR994440.bglx" );
RenameFile( TARGETDIR ^ "\\Scenery\\Ocen\\scenery\\RR994450.bgl", TARGETDIR ^ "\\Scenery\\Ocen\\scenery\\RR994450.bglx" );
RenameFile( TARGETDIR ^ "\\Scenery\\Ocen\\scenery\\RR994460.bgl", TARGETDIR ^ "\\Scenery\\Ocen\\scenery\\RR994460.bglx" );
RenameFile( TARGETDIR ^ "\\Scenery\\Ocen\\scenery\\RR994470.bgl", TARGETDIR ^ "\\Scenery\\Ocen\\scenery\\RR994470.bglx" );
RenameFile( TARGETDIR ^ "\\Scenery\\Ocen\\scenery\\RR995450.bgl", TARGETDIR ^ "\\Scenery\\Ocen\\scenery\\RR995450.bglx" );
RenameFile( TARGETDIR ^ "\\Scenery\\Ocen\\scenery\\RR995460.bgl", TARGETDIR ^ "\\Scenery\\Ocen\\scenery\\RR995460.bglx" );

RenameFile( TARGETDIR ^ "\\Scenery\\Ocen\\scenery\\BR9OCEN0.bgl", TARGETDIR ^ "\\Scenery\\Ocen\\scenery\\BR9OCEN0.bglx" );
RenameFile( TARGETDIR ^ "\\Scenery\\Ocen\\scenery\\BR9OCEN1.bgl", TARGETDIR ^ "\\Scenery\\Ocen\\scenery\\BR9OCEN1.bglx" );

RenameFile( TARGETDIR ^ "\\Scenery\\Ocen\\scenery\\UT992480.bgl", TARGETDIR ^ "\\Scenery\\Ocen\\scenery\\UT992480.bglx" );
RenameFile( TARGETDIR ^ "\\Scenery\\Ocen\\scenery\\UT993460.bgl", TARGETDIR ^ "\\Scenery\\Ocen\\scenery\\UT993460.bglx" );
RenameFile( TARGETDIR ^ "\\Scenery\\Ocen\\scenery\\UT993470.bgl", TARGETDIR ^ "\\Scenery\\Ocen\\scenery\\UT993470.bglx" );
RenameFile( TARGETDIR ^ "\\Scenery\\Ocen\\scenery\\UT993480.bgl", TARGETDIR ^ "\\Scenery\\Ocen\\scenery\\UT993480.bglx" );
RenameFile( TARGETDIR ^ "\\Scenery\\Ocen\\scenery\\UT994440.bgl", TARGETDIR ^ "\\Scenery\\Ocen\\scenery\\UT994440.bglx" );
RenameFile( TARGETDIR ^ "\\Scenery\\Ocen\\scenery\\UT994460.bgl", TARGETDIR ^ "\\Scenery\\Ocen\\scenery\\UT994460.bglx" );
RenameFile( TARGETDIR ^ "\\Scenery\\Ocen\\scenery\\UT994470.bgl", TARGETDIR ^ "\\Scenery\\Ocen\\scenery\\UT994470.bglx" );
RenameFile( TARGETDIR ^ "\\Scenery\\Ocen\\scenery\\UT995450.bgl", TARGETDIR ^ "\\Scenery\\Ocen\\scenery\\UT995450.bglx" );
RenameFile( TARGETDIR ^ "\\Scenery\\Ocen\\scenery\\UT995460.bgl", TARGETDIR ^ "\\Scenery\\Ocen\\scenery\\UT995460.bglx" );

As i said,......... i found this out the hard way,......... and ended up manually editing all of the above filenames to correct the coastline problem, only because i couldnt be bothered un-installing FS again, as i had already re-installed a HUGE amout of addons by then, and didnt feel like starting from scratch again.

YES, there is a file you need to delete BEFORE the fresh install of FS,................. the main FS9.CFG file at.....................
(drive letter) / Documents and Settings / YOU / Application Data / Microsoft / FS9 / fs9.CFG.
You need to REMOVE the bgl file named "fs9.CFG", AFTER you un-install FS9, and BEFORE you re-install your fresh version.
If you fail to do this, you will still have all the old settings etc (and any problems you may have had), from the original FS install.
FS9 will build a fresh new cfg file when you reinstall and start FS for the first time, before adding anything.

Im not sure on the "Saved Flights" files, i dont think they will cause any problems, but i have never bothered to keep them, ive always removed them before a fresh install of FS.

Lawrie. New_Zealand_etc.gif

PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 9:31 pm
by Toz
hi and many thanks for quick, and most useful replys !

I am going in search of a bulk file handler lol

Much of what I know about the file handling and system architecture of not only the sim , but the system in general is anecdotal.
I do some basics OK .
Much of what I know about Aviation is purely anecdotal.
But I do the basics OK.
But I will confess to an animal attraction to a hot ( just used ) P51D and F4U-1a ( isnt the warbirds beasty an FG ? )
And I confess to numerous other Aviational Deviations.

Its also very nice to be able to find a forum where I can say a Big Thanks to the designers and developers for NZ.
To Christian S , Robin C , Peter L , Ian W , Clive R , Heath , Snowman , the Creator , C de T , and soooo many more ....

My small ambition is to do what I can ( minimal, and even " seasonal " ! ) for NZ flight simming. Repaints, some scenery maybe, the odd afcad .
You lot have already nailed ALMOST everything bigger thann a freckle ! thumbup1.gif

Since this is the " scenery forum " can I ask if there is anything in planning for Te Anua , Manipouri , and I believe there amy be one or two other strips down that way that might be done. It Great to be able to fly to Ryans Creek. TY Snowman ! ( & i promise to READ the instructions better, lol, sorry 4 being so slow on the uptake )

And thankyou all, again. Great Work.

TOZ plane.gif