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by **Kiwia1spad** » Fri Dec 20, 2013 8:40 am

Hi All,
I was wondering, is there somewhere i can find the old pacific Flying boat/seaplane bases as scenery/afcads for FSX, especially for the old Teal Coral route?

Any help would be much appreciated

Cheers

by **Ian Warren** » Fri Dec 20, 2013 8:58 am

Something I was interested with a few years back , very much little and or nothing is out there tho be good and an easy project to look into .

by **Kiwia1spad** » Fri Dec 20, 2013 9:09 am

I was wondering if that was the case, I spent a lot of time last night searching flightsim.com and avsim and got not much, i did find some sceneries for the islands, but it was all land plane bases. I can see a teal electra doing some island flying on the horizon.. Whenuapai to Fiji or Raro, no probs

by **Ian Warren** » Fri Dec 20, 2013 9:50 am

This is were I was a little tricked in regard to the FCS Sunderland , they doctored the package and even had a glorious write up , 'SNIPES' no reply to the feedback , very disgusted with the model , Had JensBK been put in as design and production chief it would sold like hotcakes .

by **emfrat** » Sat Dec 21, 2013 7:28 am

Bruce Kennewell did a lot of this stuff for FS2004, usually with the scenery included in an Adventure/Flight Plan.
The bases were very simple, and could well translate to FSX, although I haven't tried that. Some of his later stuff was listed as FS2004/FSX
From fbbases.zip at flightsim.com:
"FS2004 Scenery--Flying Boat Bases, Australia and South Pacific. A small collection of scenery files for those locations in Australia, New Zealand and the Pacific Ocean at which scheduled stops and/or refuelling bases were located for QANTAS, TEAL and some other flying boat operations. These files were created using AFCAD2 and Rwy12 and comprise the "airport" plus NDB data and also scenery images and were specifically produced for the TEAL and "Frigate Bird II" Flights authored for FS2004 December 2005 and January 2006. By Bruce Kennewell."

by **Ian Warren** » Sat Dec 21, 2013 7:57 am

Most flying boat stop offs were a mooring point in a sheltered bay with a jetty with launch and lighters to service passengers and refuel the aircraft , the larger bases Hobsonville and Fiji's Lauthala Bay and require a little research to pin point the Australian flying boat bases - It would be a fun task to rebuild them , actually making models to suit rather than the somewhat well used librairy models .

by **Kiwia1spad** » Sat Dec 21, 2013 2:42 pm

emfrat wrote:
QUOTE (emfrat @ Dec 21 2013,8:28 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Bruce Kennewell did a lot of this stuff for FS2004, usually with the scenery included in an Adventure/Flight Plan.
The bases were very simple, and could well translate to FSX, although I haven't tried that. Some of his later stuff was listed as FS2004/FSX
From fbbases.zip at flightsim.com:
"FS2004 Scenery--Flying Boat Bases, Australia and South Pacific. A small collection of scenery files for those locations in Australia, New Zealand and the Pacific Ocean at which scheduled stops and/or refuelling bases were located for QANTAS, TEAL and some other flying boat operations. These files were created using AFCAD2 and Rwy12 and comprise the "airport" plus NDB data and also scenery images and were specifically produced for the TEAL and "Frigate Bird II" Flights authored for FS2004 December 2005 and January 2006. By Bruce Kennewell."

hmm i will look into that one, though im not sure how well it will go with FSX SP2/Acceleration

Ian Warren wrote:
QUOTE (Ian Warren @ Dec 21 2013,8:57 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Most flying boat stop offs were a mooring point in a sheltered bay with a jetty with launch and lighters to service passengers and refuel the aircraft , the larger bases Hobsonville and Fiji's Lauthala Bay and require a little research to pin point the Australian flying boat bases - It would be a fun task to rebuild them , actually making models to suit rather than the somewhat well used librairy models .

Your right Ian, it would be a fun thing to do, recreate them properly, doing some reading it seems that the lagoons were popular places for the Teal solents, and at Aitutaki there was a 'mini island' that they moored too

by **Ian Warren** » Sat Dec 21, 2013 2:51 pm

Kiwia1spad wrote:
QUOTE (Kiwia1spad @ Dec 21 2013,3:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Your right Ian, it would be a fun thing to do, recreate them properly, doing some reading it seems that the lagoons were popular places for the Teal solents, and at Aitutaki there was a 'mini island' that they moored too

We have a great Cat ... the freeware JBK's are the only option for the big boats

by **emfrat** » Sat Dec 21, 2013 4:00 pm

P.G. Taylor identified the sites for a lot of those bases on a survey flight he made early in WW2, flying the original 'Frigate Bird' from Mexico to Sydney. His book "Forgotten Island" covers that trip, and "Frigate Bird", the story of the second Cat of that name, is all about using those bases in 1953 on his Sydney - Valparaiso flight. His autobiography "The Sky Beyond" also covers those trips.
After the Chile flight, he started a tourist operation, air cruises to the Pacific Islands, using Solents I think. I have read his account of those years but I don't have that particular book; again, it is mentioned elsewhere in his books.
It might be be worth asking what your local library can do for you, in terms of borrowing them from your national library or suchlike.

by **Ian Warren** » Sat Dec 21, 2013 5:45 pm

I was just reading about P G Taylor and his unique tacking in the Easter Islands to save the Cat 'Frigate Bird II' today , hell off a character and adventure.

by **emfrat** » Sat Dec 21, 2013 5:59 pm

A true pioneer, sadly under-rated here in Oz and elsewhere. Everybody kno about Smithy, but Bill is just not recognised.
In the sim, I have actually sailed a Cat through that channel at Easter Island, but with Capt Taylor's book on my lap, not sitting up on the wing and steering with my feet...

by **Ian Warren** » Sat Dec 21, 2013 6:10 pm

emfrat wrote:
QUOTE (emfrat @ Dec 21 2013,6:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
A true pioneer, sadly under-rated here in Oz and elsewhere. Everybody kno about Smithy, but Bill is just not recognised.
In the sim, I have actually sailed a Cat through that channel at Easter Island, but with Capt Taylor's book on my lap, not sitting up on the wing and steering with my feet...

yeah ... excuse the the pun .. but that was quite a feet , an the distance almost two miles zig zagging .. as for being recognised appears to be a regular thing with Australians , they seem to grab anyone or discard and call em one off their own .

.... little like a Pav

by **emfrat** » Sat Dec 21, 2013 6:14 pm

Never knew Pavarotti was Australian, but more folk here kno him, than kno Bill Taylor

by **Ian Warren** » Sat Dec 21, 2013 8:16 pm

emfrat wrote:
QUOTE (emfrat @ Dec 21 2013,7:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Never knew Pavarotti was Australian, but more folk here kno him, than kno Bill Taylor

Ole Pav

, thinking more the creamy desert rather an Opera tenna

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