NZHA Hawera -Testers required

[Naki]

Would stray GNZLAP AFCADs be the culprit for the flatten issues?

[Ian Warren]

This is the first Hawera scenery loaded , never used GNZLAP AFCADs

[bobby48w]

[quote name='Adamski' date='May 5 2011,11:43 PM' post='8282735']
Hi Dean ... a couple of small problems, maybe:

Hi Adamski, I think your problem has to do with a NZ TARANAKI scenery add on . I had the same problem. If you do in fact have this scenery installed delete all references to Hawera and also Taranaki Landmarks which contains the Fontera complex and the Hawera water tower.
Delete::: Hawera Town, Normanby, NZHA Exclude, NZHA Flatten, NZHA Road, NZHA Aerodrome, Taranaki Landmarks.

DEANE, IF YOU ARE READING THIS POST , for me as a BORN AND BRED Taranaki-ite ,Hawera is great, no flatten problems, all airport buildings in correct place, racecourse great, water tower spot on, Fontera terrific, no frame rate issues. I love it.
BUT one small detail. If possible could you shift the runway starting point to another runway as at the moment the aircraft is slap bang up against a hedgerow and in spot view it`s hidden behind the hegerow . Not a big issue but then perhaps I`m a purist. Great work and much appreciated Ta very much. BOB .

[Timmo]

You installed the VLC patch eh Ian?

Looks all good on my machine in terms of elevation and texture although I am getting the 'stutters' as well- I've tried to narrow it down to a particular area or object but haven't been able to as yet

[Ian Warren]

Tim you may have just nailed it , forgot about that , have so many files .. i need a complete VLC set .

[scaber]

Ok, after a bit more of a look I saw that the airport does appear to be on a bit of a plateau. However, with some thought I remembered that I had reinstalled VLC and wondered about the VLC patch. Installed the patch and everything was fine again, no plateau, no ditch, all's sweet.

[deaneb]

I seems to me people are running lots of different add ons and I'm wondering about terrain mesh as well? I cant do the scenery without a flatten to get all the runways on a level surface, so not sure what the solution is !!

Also - those with stutters, do you have acceleration pack installed?

Bob - yes - will adjust start points

[scaber]

QUOTE (deaneb @ May 6 2011,1:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

I seems to me people are running lots of different add ons and I'm wondering about terrain mesh as well? I cant do the scenery without a flatten to get all the runways on a level surface, so not sure what the solution is !!

Hi Deanne
Please check my edited message above. All is well with me and Hawera!

[rayclyde]

I have found no problems as such: did half a dozen T/O and Landings using all runways and in both directions, a fair bit of taxying around and a couple of trips right around the area. Most "flying" 600' AGL at 65Kts in simple aircraft (Corben Baby Ace). Frame rate limit 31fps and most times between 25-31. On short finals and only into the NW runway there was some "stuttering" but never unacceptable. 2.6gHz processor, 2G's RAM, and 1G/byte video card; FSX plus Acceleration. Stock standard FSX with only aircraft and NZ aerodrome add-ons. Plus VLC. Very impressed with the total job. Thank you very much.

Clyde Williams
Levin

[Naki]

QUOTE (deaneb @ May 6 2011,1:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Also - those with stutters, do you have acceleration pack installed?

Yes

[Ian Warren]

QUOTE (Timmo @ May 6 2011,2:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

You installed the VLC patch eh Ian?

Tim , maybe i need another whack on the head , VLC patch installed and all fixed .... Deane all perfect but for one hedge line

[deaneb]

QUOTE (Naki @ May 6 2011,2:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Yes

Was just a stab in the dark, I was thinking if you didn't, there are some Acceleration objects placed in the scenery that might have caused the computer some confusion.
I'm outta ideas as I can't see how a small amount of scenery objects can bring good PC's to their knees !! If you delete the scenery and fly around that area without it, is their still a problem? I'm wondering if there is someything else in the area causing it?

[Adamski]

QUOTE (Adamski @ May 5 2011,11:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Hi Adamski, I think your problem has to do with a NZ TARANAKI scenery add on

Thanks for that, Bob - good catch! I'll report back! I'm also going to do a complete reinstall of VLC, just to make sure.

[Naki]

QUOTE (deaneb @ May 6 2011,4:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Was just a stab in the dark, I was thinking if you didn't, there are some Acceleration objects placed in the scenery that might have caused the computer some confusion.
I'm outta ideas as I can't see how a small amount of scenery objects can bring good PC's to their knees !! If you delete the scenery and fly around that area without it, is their still a problem? I'm wondering if there is someything else in the area causing it?

I deleted Hawera flew around South Naki and no FPS issues...reloaded Hawera and all seems good now , so not sure what the problem was on my first install.

[Timmo]

QUOTE (Naki @ May 6 2011,5:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

I deleted Hawera flew around South Naki and no FPS issues...reloaded Hawera and all seems good now , so not sure what the problem was on my first install.

Yeah strangely that happened for me too- Second time testing it (didn't reinstall) and the stutters seemed to be gone after a very quick flight. Will fly some more and see if it has gone for good.

[Naki]

hmmmm...now the jerkiness is back so blowed if I know.

[deaneb]

QUOTE (Naki @ May 6 2011,7:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

hmmmm...now the jerkiness is back so blowed if I know.

Bugger - any chance you can take out the bgl files one at a time to see if you can isolate the problem? The two I am thinking of are the one labled "Aerodrome" and the other "objects".

[Adamski]

Thanks to Bob's suggestion about disabling bits of the NZ Taranaki scenery just about everything now works (thanks., Bob! ) ... but:

1) There's still an elevation issue. It *looks* OK, but the aircraft is using the elevation setting (presumably from the Taranaki scenery) so is 1m below ground . Turning off Taranaki cures that - but I wonder who has the most accurate elevation data?

2) The central textures on the Fonterra building now appear (yay!) but that worries me a bit. Is there an ID clash of some sort? If so, could that explain other grey/missing textures I get occasionally in other areas?

[deaneb]

QUOTE (Adamski @ May 6 2011,8:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Thanks to Bob's suggestion about disabling bits of the NZ Taranaki scenery just about everything now works (thanks., Bob! ) ... but:

1) There's still an elevation issue. It *looks* OK, but the aircraft is using the elevation setting (presumably from the Taranaki scenery) so is 1m below ground . Turning off Taranaki cures that - but I wonder who has the most accurate elevation data?

2) The central textures on the Fonterra building now appear (yay!) but that worries me a bit. Is there an ID clash of some sort? If so, could that explain other grey/missing textures I get occasionally in other areas?

Some quick answers:
1) I have set the airport elevation to 370 ft. To create an airport and lay down runways and perimeter fences you need a flat surface. The quoted height from the CAA VFG is 374, but this alt causes a noticible bump in the road beside the airport, so there has to be a trade-off and I lowered it slightly to a median figure to fit better to the slightly sloping terrain. In real life the elevations at the thresholds of the 3 runways ranges from 360 to 374 feet. Whose more accurate - nobody. Depends which scenery you choose.

2) The central textures were always there, but you had an overlapping scenery (grey buildings) which was showing over top. If you have this in other areas, its becasue you have another scenery which does not have textures.

In short - you can't run two sceneries within the same area togther - its one or the other. I don't know what Taranaki scenery you are running??

[deaneb]

I just spent the best part of two hours talking and testing with Doug. We have tried to eliminate the stuttering issue and have narrowed it down to the Airfield area only. We removed the BGL containing my custom built 3d objects (NZHA_Aerodrome_VLC.bgl), but the stuttering continues, which suggests that it may be another default library object (VLC or FSX) being called up in the file NZHA_ADEX_VLC.BGL which is causing the problem. Not sure how to isolate it any further