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by **SeanTK** » Sat Dec 10, 2011 7:23 am

Didn't Mike (Creator2003) have his own forum subsection down further a short time ago?
On my screen, the entire section and any references to his freeware releases that he has been churning out within the past few weeks is gone.

by **Rotordude** » Sat Dec 10, 2011 8:55 am

Thank you for confirming I was not going senile

now what was I doing a minute ago.......

by **toprob** » Sat Dec 10, 2011 11:22 am

Mike did clear out his sub-forum this week, but he hasn't given any reason, and I'm not too sure if he intends to take his support forum somewhere else. I was planning on posting something once I knew what was going on. I think you can get support via his site.

by **Galp** » Sat Dec 10, 2011 3:09 pm

Hmmm...Veree interestink. I too have been searching in vain for the superb airports by creator 2003, to see if there were any new comments.

So wazupp Mike? Please come back, we need you!!

by **toprob** » Sat Dec 10, 2011 3:19 pm

He won't be coming back here, at least not with his support forum -- he went well beyond his role of moderator by deleting all the posts in his sub-forum.

by **Bazza** » Sat Dec 10, 2011 7:14 pm

.....and a very quiet days posting from our old mate, Mr Warren...?

by **lowflier** » Sat Dec 10, 2011 7:43 pm

Bazza wrote:
QUOTE (Bazza @ Dec 10 2011,8:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
.....and a very quiet days posting from our old mate, Mr Warren...?

Mmm... Where is Ian, he said something about resigning on TS but I didn't quite catch it?

by **SeanTK** » Sun Dec 11, 2011 10:15 am

What?!

So we just randomly lost Mike and Ian?
Explanation, because that's just weird.

by **ZK-MAT** » Sun Dec 11, 2011 10:26 am

Welcome to the up and down world of flightsim and egos. I swear it's cyclic.

by **Rotordude** » Sun Dec 11, 2011 10:37 am

In all due respect for Mike and Ian with their combined skills is much appreciated, BUT going as far as deleting user based support Q&A's with no referral or explanation is about as equal to flipping us the bird........ NOT Cool guys.

Are there answers, of course there are, will we be told.. very much doubt it.

by **SeanTK** » Sun Dec 11, 2011 10:52 am

Didn't realize that there was that much animosity between people here.
Everyone on this website seems to be genuinely nice and helpful, but apparently the world behind the scenes is quite different.
It's a bit disconcerting.

by **creator2003** » Sun Dec 11, 2011 10:57 am

Sorry guys my withdrawal of my own sub announcements forum will be replaced on my own site where i can better handle things in future ,support has always been at fs-creations.org and will continue this way ,yes this is over a disagreement and a breach of forum posting but was also a move to better support for future creations from my site .
sorry to those who feel this is a finger ,all i feel ive done is move my announcements to my own site which is in my best interest

by **toprob** » Sun Dec 11, 2011 11:42 am

SeanTK wrote:
QUOTE (SeanTK @ Dec 11 2011,11:52 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Didn't realize that there was that much animosity between people here.
Everyone on this website seems to be genuinely nice and helpful, but apparently the world behind the scenes is quite different.
It's a bit disconcerting.

I look at it the other way -- there is a lot less animosity here than you'd think. Actually It's been about a year since we had a major blow-up. This is much better than most forums, and even better than NZFF in the past. One of the main reasons is that these days we are more inclined to let things go, let members have differences of opinion if they wish, and only really moderate when we get a complaint. But if someone does report an obvious breach of forum rules, then we do fix it.

It is tricky to get everyone to understand that arguments and squabbles are fine until someone takes it too far with personal abuse or attacks. Then everyone tends to wade in, and things can go from normal lively discussion to completely offensive in a very short time. The real trouble starts when members take offence at being moderated. The most recent flare-up was a perfect example of this, one side of the argument took offence at our over-zealous moderation, and the other took offence at our lack of moderation. Both sides made assumptions which were completely wrong.

Contrary to popular belief, the forum admin never 'win', but if NZFF continues as normal, we consider that a good result.

by **Rotordude** » Sun Dec 11, 2011 11:14 pm

creator2003 wrote:
QUOTE (creator2003 @ Dec 11 2011,11:57 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Sorry guys my withdrawal of my own sub announcements forum will be replaced on my own site where i can better handle things in future ,support has always been at fs-creations.org and will continue this way ,yes this is over a disagreement and a breach of forum posting but was also a move to better support for future creations from my site .
sorry to those who feel this is a finger ,all i feel ive done is move my announcements to my own site which is in my best interest

Thanks for the HU Mike, you still have my support. Even if I have to go looking for announcements

Cheers.

by **Splitpin** » Mon Dec 12, 2011 6:22 pm

Agree.....as long as we can find you Mike, thats the main thing......right behind you and all the "local" designers, only a Kiwi can model New Zealand.....no time for invaders sorry.

by **SgtPepper** » Tue Dec 13, 2011 5:42 am

What a shame, we lost a couple of main players.

I hope there's someone there to look after Ian while he goes cold turkey.

by **toprob** » Tue Dec 13, 2011 8:23 am

I'm sure that Ian will be back, we could all do with a break at times, and Ian deserves it more than most.

by **dbcunnz** » Tue Dec 13, 2011 3:58 pm

I have just been talking to Ian and don't worry guys he will be back he is just having a breather and will be back with vengeance in the near future.

by **Splitpin** » Tue Dec 13, 2011 5:11 pm

dbcunnz wrote:
QUOTE (dbcunnz @ Dec 13 2011,4:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I have just been talking to Ian and don't worry guys he will be back he is just having a breather and will be back with vengeance in the near future.

Same here, had a good talk with him last night.....he's not gone for long, but all things considered, as Rob said ....he just needs a break.....

by **Rotordude** » Tue Dec 13, 2011 5:51 pm

dbcunnz wrote:
QUOTE (dbcunnz @ Dec 13 2011,4:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
and will be back with vengeance in the near future.

mmmm now that sounds worrying

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