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PostPosted: Thu Nov 25, 2010 8:41 pm
by toprob
Christmas is only a month away, I dunno how that happened. I've put the gift vouchers back in the Godzone Store, just in case you decide that the ideal Xmas gift is Vector Land Class!


VLC libraries
One good thing about 'resigning' from NZFF admin is that I can concentrate on some of the NZ scenery work which needs to be done. One of these jobs is a New Zealand object library for VLC. I've started this job a few times in the past, but there is always something more urgent to do, so it gets shelved. This time will be different, I'm sure...

Having a more local library gives a better choice for developers who want to build a local airfield, but are usually stuck with some decidedly un-kiwi models. This will eventually included a complete autogen replacement, but in the meantime I'm concentrating on airfield objects, such as hangers, fuel pumps, fences and even some local flora. The idea is to allow anyone to be able to recreate a small airfield which looks like New Zealand, but doesn't require 3D modelling skills.

At the moment the library is roughly divided into airfield-specific objects, and rural objects, as there is quite a lot of overlap at most airfields. So landing at an airfield, even if it only consists of a couple of hangers, you'll see some real kiwi lean-to's, cyclone gates, wire fencing and cabbage trees.

The libraries will be a free download, but will require Vector Land Class. They will be developed over time, but initially I hope that they will be sufficient enough to release as part of the first batch of VLC airfields, due out around the time of the VLC patch. Well, really I'll have to release them anyway, as Ashburton airfield will require them to some extent. I've been trying to plan for a more general model library rather than specific NZAS objects, which goes against the way I normally work, but we'll see...

The problem I have is that whenever I visit an airfield to get some generic library textures, I end up falling in love with it, and I can't bring myself to 'genericise' it. But I just need to harden up! If I intend to build a library of objects for anyone to put together into a New Zealand airfield, then I should try to get some good use out of it myself.

Still, there's no reason why some airfields can't be a combination of library objects and custom buildings.

I'm interested in what tools people have to use the libraries, and whether they will benefit from some tutorials on building a local airfield. As the libraries are designed to build over time, I need to be careful that the current libraries are always available, so there will be some limitations on how these are used -- for instance, it will not be possible to include these in your own libraries, or recompile with a different GUID, as this would create havoc with updates. If you are interested in using the libraries in your own VLC-based projects, let me know.

Also, if anyone has a nice collection of objects which would make a nice NZ-based library, now would be the time to get it out into the community.

PostPosted: Thu Nov 25, 2010 9:29 pm
by Ian Warren
This entire project is so brilliant , it puts making your home airfield very personal , even asking for a little help , now what Robin dose to get these wicked airfields and
airports working is really getting a feel for the land , first Rob ... 'Toprob' likes to go out and roll in the dusty mounds or simply go walky bouts , intently steer at a tin wall

Arr the things he will do for the 'click' off a camera , the things we do smile.gif

PostPosted: Thu Nov 25, 2010 10:33 pm
by ZK-MAT
Were you falling over when you took that picture Ian???? LOL I can just imagine it - two grown men rolling around in dirt, giggling ohmy.gif

PostPosted: Fri Nov 26, 2010 8:27 am
by IslandBoy77
There's a special name for that "position". It's called "the photographer's crawl"... tongue.gif Been there, done that too many times to count. Hey, a guy's gotta do what he's gotta do to get the shot. biggrin.gif

PostPosted: Fri Nov 26, 2010 11:55 am
by madkudu
Awesome news Toprob,
I would love to try my hand at designing some small airstrips, a NZ object library will be awesome.
Cant wait to see Alexandra and all those west coast airports.

Cheers, Jimmy

ps, are you still working on Auckland and Ardmore to fit into Supercity? I hope so

PostPosted: Fri Nov 26, 2010 12:00 pm
by Nzeddy
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Can't wait.

Thanks Robin.

PostPosted: Fri Nov 26, 2010 1:08 pm
by Ian Warren
ZK-MAT wrote:
QUOTE (ZK-MAT @ Nov 25 2010, 11:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Were you falling over when you took that picture Ian???? LOL I can just imagine it - two grown men rolling around in dirt, giggling ohmy.gif

I could have been falling ? I cant remember blink.gif smile.gif

IslandBoy77 wrote:
QUOTE (IslandBoy77 @ Nov 26 2010, 09:27 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
It's called "the photographer's crawl"... tongue.gif Been there, done that too many times to count.

Pete , maybe could have been "the photographer's craw and fall"...... maybe not rolleyes.gif

PostPosted: Fri Nov 26, 2010 1:49 pm
by toprob
The REAL question is:
Whatever happened to my hair? I'm sure I used to have a bit more than that...

PostPosted: Fri Nov 26, 2010 2:09 pm
by Venge
toprob wrote:
QUOTE (toprob @ Nov 26 2010, 02:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The REAL question is:
Whatever happened to my hair? I'm sure I used to have a bit more than that...


Yes, I have examined that very problem myself. I have found it is not that I am losing it, it is merely migrating down my back towards my ass .... lol

PostPosted: Fri Nov 26, 2010 2:23 pm
by Ian Warren
Venge wrote:
QUOTE (Venge @ Nov 26 2010, 03:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yes, I have examined that very problem myself.

Me to , to me its known as a solar panel to a sex machine , whoops i mean an autogen machine laugh.gif

PostPosted: Fri Nov 26, 2010 4:31 pm
by IslandBoy77
Venge wrote:
QUOTE (Venge @ Nov 26 2010, 03:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yes, I have examined that very problem myself. I have found it is not that I am losing it, it is merely migrating down my back towards my ass .... lol

And if it's not headed there, it's coming out your ears & nose...

PostPosted: Fri Nov 26, 2010 5:09 pm
by Ex ANZ Eng
toprob wrote:
QUOTE (toprob @ Dec 1 2010, 02:49 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The REAL question is:
Whatever happened to my hair? I'm sure I used to have a bit more than that...


welcome to my world Rob....... biggrin.gif

PostPosted: Fri Nov 26, 2010 10:54 pm
by Nzeddy
toprob wrote:
QUOTE (toprob @ Nov 25 2010, 09:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Also, if anyone has a nice collection of objects which would make a nice NZ-based library, now would be the time to get it out into the community.

Would a small size club house type building be anygood? 10x18x3m