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PostPosted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 8:26 pm
by toprob
A couple of things have kept me busy lately, sort of related. First, I've been looking at the possibility of converting my scenery for use in X-plane. This doesn't mean that I'm looking to move development to X-plane, but it may be that a percentage of my customers may move over at some stage. The first problem I have is that X-plane is kind of frustrating for someone who has lived and breathed MSFS for a decade. The main problem is the limited view system, but then I thought to switch on TrackIR, which helped a lot. However TrackIR in 3D cockpit view behaves quite strangely, shifting about in the cockpit when I turn my head. Still, it helped me see the scenery outside the window.
I'd previously done a quick conversion of Real NZ Wellington, so I took a look there. I only use the demo version of X-plane, so there's no actual scenery for NZ -- no land, and definitely no elevation -- so it looks a bit funny. However it did at least show up, which surprised me. The conversion process was pretty opaque -- I just pressed the buttons I was told to press, and let it run -- I have no clue how X-plane scenery works...
The initial view was pretty lame, mainly because my settings weren't optimised, but with a bit of a play around I managed to get sharpish textures. However X-plane keeps on dropping the display quality of the ground textures, kind of like super-blurries, which is frustrating. I guess it requires more graphics power than I have at the moment.
Once I got it working ok, with no rain to obscure the view, I took a look around. The first thing I noticed was the cloud shadows -- very, very nice, and an obvious short-coming of FSX.

This is the Real NZ Wellington FS2004 version of the photoscenery -- not up to FSX standard, but it may be possible to use higher-resolution images. The conversion process only works with FS2004 scenery, though.


The flat terrain is only because I don't own X-plane yet -- apparently the NZ mesh is on a par with FSX, but I've yet to see this myself.



My city buildings -- I need to figure out how to add autogen.


The airport looks good, some obvious faults with transparent textures, but nothing which can't be fixed -- I think...


I still have a long way to go before I can say I've got the hang of X-plane, but it may be worth persevering. I will need to buy it though, which is $99 I don't have at the moment...

My initial tests with X-plane gave me very funny clouds and visibility, quite arcadey, but I've had a play and now I like the clouds. However this brings me to the second thing I've been testing this week...

Since I'm getting Supercity ready for release, I wanted to get some really nice screenshots, so I looked at some environment addons for FSX In the end I settled on REX2, and I must say it does what it says it'll do. FSX plus REX certainly puts X-plane to shame, but I guess that it all comes down to what you want from a sim -- and what your system can handle. X-plane seems to perform better, but it does 'downgrade' the graphics at the first sign of trouble. FSX doesn't perform well with a lot of clouds on my system, although I love clouds. Still, a bit of tweaking should give me a very nice display in both sims.

I'll post some screenshots of FSX/Supercity/REX shortly, and maybe a review of REX...

Oh, ok, here's a couple of sneak looks at Supercity with REX...




PostPosted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 8:37 pm
by redkiwi
My money is burning a hole in my pocket! Three more weeks and I'll be free from Uni and able to get out and start putting together Hobsonville and North Shore Aerodrome.

PostPosted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 8:58 pm
by dbcunnz
toprob wrote:
QUOTE (toprob @ Oct 6 2009, 09:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
My initial tests with X-plane gave me very funny clouds and visibility, quite arcadey, but I've had a play and now I like the clouds. However this brings me to the second thing I've been testing this week...

Since I'm getting Supercity ready for release, I wanted to get some really nice screenshots, so I looked at some environment addons for FSX In the end I settled on REX2, and I must say it does what it says it'll do. FSX plus REX certainly puts X-plane to shame, but I guess that it all comes down to what you want from a sim -- and what your system can handle. X-plane seems to perform better, but it does 'downgrade' the graphics at the first sign of trouble. FSX doesn't perform well with a lot of clouds on my system, although I love clouds. Still, a bit of tweaking should give me a very nice display in both sims.

I'll post some screenshots of FSX/Supercity/REX shortly, and maybe a review of REX...

Oh, ok, here's a couple of sneak looks at Supercity with REX...

My money will be going on the Supercity as soon as it is released and Rex which I haven't got yet looks much better than X-planes. I had a play with X-plane a couple of years ago and wasn't impressed with it but I know it has came a long way since then but will be sticking with FSX and photo real addons

PostPosted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 10:04 pm
by pilotgallagher01
Awesome Rob!!

And redkiwi can't wait for a North Shore Scenery, flew there on a x/c country recently and FSX looks nothing like the real thing..


redkiwi wrote:
QUOTE (redkiwi @ Oct 6 2009, 09:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
My money is burning a hole in my pocket! Three more weeks and I'll be free from Uni and able to get out and start putting together Hobsonville and North Shore Aerodrome.

PostPosted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 11:51 pm
by pilot.masman
lookin good smile.gif maybe you should make it work on the ipod/iphone version of x-plane biggrin.gif now that would be fun.

PostPosted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 10:40 am
by Nzeddy
That looks awesome Rob!!

Can't wait for Super City X!!!

PostPosted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 2:27 pm
by spongebob206
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 10:33 pm
by husker
REX2 is fantastic - and not too expensive now with the current exchange rate. They are actually working on getting cloud shadows in FSX! They have some samples on their website.

The new weather REX engine is amazing - it really captures the local Wellington weather well (it's surreal looking out the window and seeing the same weather I see in FSX, automagically)../ and looks great with the Godzone scenery.

PostPosted: Sat Oct 24, 2009 11:26 am
by ZK-MADMAX
pilotgallagher01 wrote:
QUOTE (pilotgallagher01 @ Oct 6 2009, 11:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Awesome Rob!!

And redkiwi can't wait for a North Shore Scenery, flew there on a x/c country recently and FSX looks nothing like the real thing..


ohmy.gif You didn't tell me you came up here, Chris!

Being a regular flyer at North Shore I could lend a hand with the production of this scenery, Redkiwi.

Looking forward to the Supercity release!!! drool.gif