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PostPosted: Wed Dec 10, 2008 10:36 am
by ScottyB
Hi guys,

As you'll probably know i'm looking for a new computer for FS9. I have this one in sight at the moment and all i need to do is make sure it will run FS9 with no problems. Will it run FS9 with high performance and high FPS if my sim has mostly max stettings, anti-aliasing, alot of add-ons etc?

If it will....I CAN HIT BUY NOW!!

Thanks, Scotty B santa_cool.gif

PostPosted: Wed Dec 10, 2008 11:07 am
by benwynn
Yeah, the graphics card isnt the best. And neither is the price for what your getting, but its pretty good none the less. Should run it okay smile.gif

Edit: But dont push it. You dont even need to run max max max settings, as it doesnt even look better and just chews preformance...

PostPosted: Wed Dec 10, 2008 11:13 am
by Timmo
That is faster than my computer and I run FSX without too much problem....so if FSX runs as bad as some say it does, then FS9 should fly on that winkyy.gif

PostPosted: Wed Dec 10, 2008 4:42 pm
by Charl
Don't buy until you hear if it really is overclocked to 4.8GHz!
If yes, walk away.
In any case I'd be hesitant because you'd want a better video card, which would overwhelm that PSU.
Look for 500W minimum.

benwynn wrote:
QUOTE (benwynn @ Dec 10 2008, 12:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Edit: But dont push it. You dont even need to run max max max settings, as it doesnt even look better and just chews preformance...
Not sure what you'd not max out in FS9 - it needs every little bit it can deliver. Especially ground shadowing.

PostPosted: Wed Dec 10, 2008 6:43 pm
by ScottyB
Charl wrote:
QUOTE (Charl @ Dec 10 2008, 05:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Don't buy until you hear if it really is overclocked to 4.8GHz!
If yes, walk away.
In any case I'd be hesitant because you'd want a better video card, which would overwhelm that PSU.
Look for 500W minimum.


Okay thanks for the advice Charl. How do i check if it is overclocked to 4.8GHz? And what do you mean a better graphics card would overwhelm the PSU?

Thanks, Scotty B

PostPosted: Wed Dec 10, 2008 6:52 pm
by C152
Not a bad machine to run FS on. One thing I would suggest is that you put a bigger hard drive in. That way you dont run out of space for all your aircraft and scenery.

PostPosted: Wed Dec 10, 2008 7:28 pm
by Bazza
Unless your name is Xlitherman, it's sold...? angry.gif

PostPosted: Wed Dec 10, 2008 7:48 pm
by Charl
ScottyB wrote:
QUOTE (ScottyB @ Dec 10 2008, 07:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Okay thanks for the advice Charl. How do i check if it is overclocked to 4.8GHz? And what do you mean a better graphics card would overwhelm the PSU?
Thanks, Scotty B
Probably too late now, but you could just've asked - the CPU was described as "4.8GHz", may have been a typo.
As to the PSU, don't skimp, it would be penny wise. You will have endless problems which you won't be able to identify easily (Especially CTD and general instability).
That, and decent cooling.
As a guide, here's a very well-balanced FS computer I specced almost 2 years ago, and it runs FS9 like a dream.
You might skimp on things like video card which can be later upgraded, but not on stuff like mobo and PSU which can't.

Windows XP Home SP2
Intel Core 2 DUO E6600 2.4GHz Conroe 1066MHz FSB 4MB L2 Cache LGA 775 Dual Core Processor
G.SKILL 2GB kit (1GB x 2) DDR2-800 (PC-6400) CL4-4-4-12 F2-6400CL4D-2GBPK
ASUS P5N-E SLI Socket 775 nVidia nForce 650i SLI ATX Intel Motherboard
Seagate 500GB 7200RPM SATA2 16MB Cache
XFX PV-T80G-THF9 Geforce 8800GTS 640MB GDDR3 PCI-EXPRESS 16x Video Card
Onboard 7.1 Channel Audio,
16x Dual Layer +/- DVD Writer
Onboard 10/100/1000 Network
Silverstone ST60F 600W Power Supply with 12cm fan
Silverstone SST-TJ06 Tower Case w/ Side Window, Wind Tunnel (Silver or Black)
1x Audio, 1x Mic, 4x USB2.0 front panel, 1x 1394, 4x USB2.0, 3 ss jacks rear

PostPosted: Wed Dec 10, 2008 7:53 pm
by Adamski
Charl wrote:
QUOTE (Charl @ Dec 10 2008, 05:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Don't buy until you hear if it really is overclocked to 4.8GHz!
If yes, walk away.
In any case I'd be hesitant because you'd want a better video card, which would overwhelm that PSU.
Look for 500W minimum.

I've not overclocked my system for years. To be honest - the frequency of crashes never justified the [often marginal] increase in performance. FS9/FSX are such resource hogs anyway (and crash often enough on their own) that I hate to introduce yet another cause of CTDs to the mix.

I looked at the TM specs. Is 350W just for the motherboard usual? That's SIX 60W light bulbs going *all the time* ... and there's all your other power requirements to go on top of that <???>. You certainly won't need to heat your house next winter!

PostPosted: Wed Dec 10, 2008 8:29 pm
by dbcunnz
Intel Core 2 Duo E6600 2.4GHz CPU Speed: 4.8 GHz. This is a typical mistake that many people make because it says 2 core 2.4Ghz they think that it is double the 2.4Ghz speed but in actual fact it is 2 cores both working a 2.4Ghz so your actual CPU speed is only 2.4Ghz.

PostPosted: Wed Dec 10, 2008 10:10 pm
by NZ255
That's so annoying.

On Trademe the guy said: 'Super fast 12Ghz CPU!'

"Quad core, 4 x 3Ghz = 12ghz!!!!! WOW"


I commented and got all this poo.gif shoved down my throat about 'it is so 12Ghz.....can't you do math? 4 x 3Ghz = 12Ghz. Duh its a Quad core (4)!!! pirate.gif '

dry.gif

PostPosted: Thu Dec 11, 2008 8:40 am
by ScottyB
Charl wrote:
QUOTE (Charl @ Dec 10 2008, 08:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Windows XP Home SP2
Intel Core 2 DUO E6600 2.4GHz Conroe 1066MHz FSB 4MB L2 Cache LGA 775 Dual Core Processor
G.SKILL 2GB kit (1GB x 2) DDR2-800 (PC-6400) CL4-4-4-12 F2-6400CL4D-2GBPK
ASUS P5N-E SLI Socket 775 nVidia nForce 650i SLI ATX Intel Motherboard
Seagate 500GB 7200RPM SATA2 16MB Cache
XFX PV-T80G-THF9 Geforce 8800GTS 640MB GDDR3 PCI-EXPRESS 16x Video Card
Onboard 7.1 Channel Audio,
16x Dual Layer +/- DVD Writer
Onboard 10/100/1000 Network
Silverstone ST60F 600W Power Supply with 12cm fan
Silverstone SST-TJ06 Tower Case w/ Side Window, Wind Tunnel (Silver or Black)
1x Audio, 1x Mic, 4x USB2.0 front panel, 1x 1394, 4x USB2.0, 3 ss jacks rear


Where do i get one of these from or is it a custom built comp?

Thanks, SB

PostPosted: Thu Dec 11, 2008 11:08 am
by NZ255
Custom...a lottta fun too!

Here's mine: http://nzff.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=7380


Runs FSX with add-ons full (custom) AI, display settings almost full, 8xAA, 16xAF, gets anywhere from 20 - ~ FPS

I'm very happy with it so far. smile.gif

PostPosted: Thu Dec 11, 2008 1:01 pm
by Charl
...and here's one from 5 years ago, that also does the FS9 job pretty nicely.
I know because I hooked it up to a 40" HD TV set for fun, and it looks marvellous.
(It had a midlife video upgrade.)

PENTIUM 4 3.2GHz
Intel Pentium 4 3.2GHz CPU
512MB DDR Ram
256mb NVidia 7900GT Graphics Card
10/100 Networking
16x DVD Dual Layer Writer
6x USB 2.0 Ports
200GB 7200rpm Hard Drive
PCI Audio
Midi Tower Case
56K Data Fax Modem
3.5" 1.44mb Floppy Disk Drive
New Keyboard and Mouse
Incls Trial Anti Virus

If you can find a used one with similar spec, the price should be very reasonable, this was around NZ$1,200 for the box at the time.

PS the one above was a custom build from Playtech who really know the business.

PostPosted: Thu Dec 11, 2008 1:02 pm
by Timmo
Charl wrote:
QUOTE (Charl @ Dec 10 2008, 08:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Windows XP Home SP2
Intel Core 2 DUO E6600 2.4GHz Conroe 1066MHz FSB 4MB L2 Cache LGA 775 Dual Core Processor
G.SKILL 2GB kit (1GB x 2) DDR2-800 (PC-6400) CL4-4-4-12 F2-6400CL4D-2GBPK
ASUS P5N-E SLI Socket 775 nVidia nForce 650i SLI ATX Intel Motherboard
Seagate 500GB 7200RPM SATA2 16MB Cache
XFX PV-T80G-THF9 Geforce 8800GTS 640MB GDDR3 PCI-EXPRESS 16x Video Card
Onboard 7.1 Channel Audio,
16x Dual Layer +/- DVD Writer
Onboard 10/100/1000 Network
Silverstone ST60F 600W Power Supply with 12cm fan
Silverstone SST-TJ06 Tower Case w/ Side Window, Wind Tunnel (Silver or Black)
1x Audio, 1x Mic, 4x USB2.0 front panel, 1x 1394, 4x USB2.0, 3 ss jacks rear


That sort of computer would run FSX no probs so it is probably a good spec level in order to judge both versions of the sim: FS9 at max settings or FSX a mid settings (remembering that the sliders arent really comparable between the two. I.e. Max Autogen slider in FS9 = low Autogen Slider in FSX, Max terrain slider in FS9 (20m with tweak) = mid slider in FSX)