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Recommendations on rudder pedals

PostPosted: Tue Jul 20, 2021 5:12 pm
by jpreou
The right brake on my Saitek combat pro pedals is stuck on.
I'm not keen on the ProFlight pedals as I don't like the 'heel lip'.
What are others using for pedals these days?

Re: Recommendations on rudder pedals

PostPosted: Tue Jul 20, 2021 7:38 pm
by emfrat
Hello Jeff - My CH pedals gave great service for nearly 15 years until one rudder side failed. I replaced them with a Logitech set, which does the job, but they are very light and I had to screw them down into the floor (holes provided) because they don't grip the carpet like the nice weighty CH ones did.
Hoping the Honeycomb ones appear soon. CH seem to have pulled out of that market.
ATB,
MikeW

Re: Recommendations on rudder pedals

PostPosted: Wed Jul 21, 2021 10:51 am
by cowpatz
These might be worth keeping an eye on:

Honeycomb Charlie rudder pedals.

They cannot be far from release. I have the Alpha yoke which is great.
I have a set of CH rudder pedals, which are OK, but I find the braking a little awkward when trying to apply them symmetrically. They are also a bit dated now.

Re: Recommendations on rudder pedals

PostPosted: Wed Jul 21, 2021 3:27 pm
by jpreou
I don't have problem with slippage as they are screwed into my simulator base.
I'll check out the Honeycomb ones, thanks.

Re: Recommendations on rudder pedals

PostPosted: Thu Jul 22, 2021 9:05 am
by cowpatz
When you say the "rudder side" failed on your CH pedals what do you mean? Mechanical failure or a stuffed potentiometer?
I replaced the mechanical pots in mine with Hall effect sensors.

Re: Recommendations on rudder pedals

PostPosted: Thu Jul 22, 2021 9:50 am
by jpreou
It isn't the rudder, it is the toe brake. My *guess* is I think the little plastic 'hook' that holds the return spring is broken. I've seen a YoutTube video on how to potentially repair these, but I don't have much inclination and the last set of saitek rudder pedals I took apart were a bear to re-assemble -- and that was when I actually had a workbench and good eyesight! :)

Re: Recommendations on rudder pedals

PostPosted: Thu Jul 22, 2021 11:01 am
by emfrat
cowpatz wrote:When you say the "rudder side" failed on your CH pedals what do you mean? Mechanical failure or a stuffed potentiometer?
I replaced the mechanical pots in mine with Hall effect sensors.


CP, I'm pretty sure it was electrical. I posted a more detailed reply about 2hrs ago, but it has vanished. I must have been too slow :rolleyes:

Mike

Re: Recommendations on rudder pedals

PostPosted: Mon Aug 09, 2021 4:36 pm
by Radar88
cowpatz wrote:These might be worth keeping an eye on:

Honeycomb Charlie rudder pedals.

They cannot be far from release. I have the Alpha yoke which is great.
I have a set of CH rudder pedals, which are OK, but I find the braking a little awkward when trying to apply them symmetrically. They are also a bit dated now.


Honeycomb Charlie rudder pedals being inspected by a XPlane Team member @ Oshkosh 2021

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Honeycomb Aeronautical Charlie Rudder Pedals Prototype(s) Hands On EAA Airventure Oshkosh 2021

Re: Recommendations on rudder pedals

PostPosted: Mon Aug 09, 2021 4:42 pm
by jpreou
Nice pedals.
I was also looking recently at the PFT Puma heli controls, but at a likely NZ $2700-ish landed here I couldn't get that past the boss!! :)
To be fair, even I was struggling with that cost for a "joystick just for fun" !! :)

Re: Recommendations on rudder pedals

PostPosted: Mon Aug 09, 2021 6:24 pm
by chopper_nut
The PFT is supposedly the best but yeah they are pretty pricey. I get by with an X56 with no spring and Thrustmaster pedals which are OK.

Re: Recommendations on rudder pedals

PostPosted: Mon Aug 09, 2021 6:49 pm
by jpreou
You use the throttle as collective?
Reason I wanted the full controls is to learn to fly a heli 'properly' with the 'proper' controls, mostly the collective and twist throttle.
Just don't think I can stretch to that kind of coin right now.

Re: Recommendations on rudder pedals

PostPosted: Mon Aug 09, 2021 11:07 pm
by Radar88
jpreou wrote:You use the throttle as collective?
Reason I wanted the full controls is to learn to fly a heli 'properly' with the 'proper' controls, mostly the collective and twist throttle.
Just don't think I can stretch to that kind of coin right now.


Hey Jeff here's something new for your consideration. It might be what your looking for sometime in the future, by way of just having a collective and twist throttle from Virpil Controls with their recent products VPC Rotor TCS Plus Base and VPC SharKa-50 Grip.

Sérgio Costa aka Helisimmer.com Previews: the upcoming VIRPIL Collective Controller Lineup

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Virpil News & Announcements VPC Collective Controller Lineup Preorders Open

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Here's some preliminary estimate costings for you to consider into the distant future of affordability.

VPC Rotor TCS Plus Base €289.95 Eur = Approx NZD $486.30

VPC SharKa-50 Grip €189.95 Eur = Approx NZD $318.58
Discount (COLLECTIVE BUNDLE) -€47.99 Eur

COLLECTIVE BUNDLE Total €431.91 Eur = Approx NZD $724.39

+ Shipping FedEx Priority €67.95 = Approx NZD $113.96

+ GST Approx NZD $111.70

You'll be looking at a total Landing price into NZ Approx NZD $950.05


If you want to add on accessories such as their Chair Mount - Collective Base Adapter for fitting to the underside of your existing chair seat base.

VPC Rotor TCS Plus Base €289.95 Eur = Approx NZD $486.30

VPC SharKa-50 Grip €189.95 Eur = Approx NZD $318.58

VPC Chair Mount - Collective Base Adapter €39.95 EUR = Approx NZD $67.00
Discount (COLLECTIVE BUNDLE) -€47.99 Eur

Total €471.86 = Approx NZD $791.39

+Shipping FedEx Priority €77.95 = Approx NZD $130.74

+ GST Approx NZD $122.03

You'll be looking at a total Landing price into NZ Approx NZD $1,044.16

Here's some food for thought video's of the slightly cheaper €189.95 Eur = Approx NZD $318.52 VPC Rotor TCS Base that shows just the collective and the VPC SharKa-50 Grip. Which is just the collective without the twist throttle and a Chair Mount - Collective Base Adapter.

VIRPIL Collective Unboxing | VPC Rotor TCS Base & VPC SharKa-50 Grip | Part 1/4

VIRPIL Collective | Install and Use | X Plane | VPC Rotor TCS Base & VPC SharKa-50 Grip | Part 2/4

Re: Recommendations on rudder pedals

PostPosted: Tue Aug 10, 2021 7:39 am
by jpreou
Radar88 wrote:Hey Jeff here's something new for your consideration...


Thanks Radar, I'll look into that later on today when I get a gap in my work. I could probably get it to fit one of the existing adapter plates on my Obutto Revolution cockpit.
Cheers

Re: Recommendations on rudder pedals

PostPosted: Tue Aug 10, 2021 9:47 am
by chopper_nut
I get along fine with the HOTAS setup. If I wanted to, I could tape it to the side of the seat but I haven't found the need to do so. The more specialised controls are nice but they are stupidly expensive and can be too type specific whereas the PFT and HOTAS type setups can really be used for almost everything. The only thing that the HOTAS isn't as good for is Bell 47 and Hughes 300s types

Re: Recommendations on rudder pedals

PostPosted: Tue Aug 10, 2021 10:15 am
by jpreou
chopper_nut wrote:The only thing that the HOTAS isn't as good for is Bell 47 and Hughes 300s types


Why is that then?

I actually hovered a 300 once. I like the 300. First time ever at the controls of a heli - the only time actually - instructor let me have everything except the throttle. I think there is a video on my YouTube channel.

Re: Recommendations on rudder pedals

PostPosted: Tue Aug 10, 2021 3:15 pm
by chopper_nut
Because it doesn't have the twist throttle. Every 300 add-on for a Sim has a governor though. I've got a little bit of time in the 300. It's a bit of a fun machine