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NZDN Weather right now

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Thu Mar 10, 2016 6:21 pm
by ZKIWI
NZDN 100504Z 22050G67KT 30KM VCSH FEW015 16/07 Q1001 RMK VATSIM USE ONLY
I thought my Flightsim setup was broken as I taxied out. Lined up on Rwy 21 in a Cessna 152 ( I know brave/stupid), gunned it and airborne in less than the length of a white line. I massaged the throttle and managed to fly backwards and land before I took off.

Re: NZDN Weather right now

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Thu Mar 10, 2016 6:34 pm
by toprob
Luckily it looks like I've missed the worst of it, just flew home from DN at 4pm -- rough trip, but nice and quick.
Re: NZDN Weather right now

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Thu Mar 10, 2016 6:36 pm
by Ian Warren
Hi ya Ty ..

Flightsom < for the foolish

, put ya arm over the shoulder as if your driving backwards

Re: NZDN Weather right now

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Thu Mar 10, 2016 6:46 pm
by toprob
Just saw some photos of the wind damage at Momona on Facebook... I see they've cancelled flights from 6pm. I've just spent 3 beautiful days there, came home at the right time! Stinking hot here in CH though.
Dunedin is really stunning at this time of the year, the drive out on the peninsula was beautiful.
Re: NZDN Weather right now

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Fri Mar 11, 2016 11:26 am
by Lindstrim
The A320 from AKL diverted to CHC I think, where it was gusting only half the amount, and 2 ATR's turned back around for CHC after passing the half way point.
Re: NZDN Weather right now

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Fri Mar 11, 2016 12:07 pm
by Ian Warren
Lindstrim wrote:The A320 from AKL diverted to CHC I think, where it was gusting only half the amount, and 2 ATR's turned back around for CHC after passing the half way point.
Coming into CHC yester .. two ARBUSTS had to go around , chicken shite pilots piece crap plane .. had it been a trusty Boeing , they would have been in with a grin !

Re: NZDN Weather right now

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Fri Mar 11, 2016 1:43 pm
by Splitpin
I myself would much prefer a so called "chicken shite" pilot , who can tell he's reached the limits of safety
and try again , and again if required.
I think it's called an informed decision , and has very little if anything to do with aircraft type I'm sure.
I was in Wellington earlier this year in very similar conditions, and while watching the landings for a few hours .. every Airbus arrived on first attempt ... the only go around was a Qantas 737.
Re: NZDN Weather right now

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Fri Mar 11, 2016 2:45 pm
by Lindstrim
I had a small experience of wind shear in AKL about 14 months ago, and if I was in anything other than a 1900 I would have gone around. In fact about another couple of knots, and I would have.
Fun story, but not for now.
DUD is the only airport that we get wind shear reports for in the entire network, mainly I'm lead to believe because of an incident with a 732 back in the day.
Re: NZDN Weather right now

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Fri Mar 11, 2016 3:25 pm
by Ian Warren
Its from were I sit here drawing/painting , the aircraft are well above any ground limits, they would still be over the Uni/Jelly-park intersection/marker and still well within limits but ARBUSTED , I was out the airport one other time, wasn't even gusty , another two went around (separate flights) in a standard N/W and mild breeze, I Know and don't think its the pilots .. its the aircraft , a Virgin flew in directly without any hassle ... come to think I have not seen a Boeing in all its years doing go around's unless it was on a training sortie!
Re: NZDN Weather right now

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Fri Mar 11, 2016 3:50 pm
by Ian Warren
Splitpin wrote:... the only go around was a Qantas 737.
That's HMNZS Wellington .. everyone go's around there, lotta hot air and turbulence from a Hive and a Cake-tin!
Re: NZDN Weather right now

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Fri Mar 11, 2016 4:26 pm
by Sonnyj
Now if they could channel the HOT AIR to the Cake Tin, they could cook something up....Oh wait a minute, they have been doing that for years LOL.
wild weather challenges, I go here
http://www.badbadweather.com/
Re: NZDN Weather right now

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Fri Mar 11, 2016 4:47 pm
by Ian Warren
Nice one Les

I could see the GUSTS icon go up Judith Collins

... WHOOPS that is to "Political" .. OK ..we will just stick a Hive up there !

Re: NZDN Weather right now

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Fri Mar 11, 2016 6:21 pm
by Lindstrim
Ian Warren wrote:Its from were I sit here drawing/painting , the aircraft are well above any ground limits, they would still be over the Uni/Jelly-park intersection/marker and still well within limits but ARBUSTED , I was out the airport one other time, wasn't even gusty , another two went around (separate flights) in a standard N/W and mild breeze, I Know and don't think its the pilots .. its the aircraft , a Virgin flew in directly without any hassle ... come to think I have not seen a Boeing in all its years doing go around's unless it was on a training sortie!
Ha the one is front of us was a Jet Connect 737, we were trying to figure out why he went around. Found out about 3 min later why
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Fri Mar 11, 2016 6:29 pm
by Ian Warren
Lindstrim wrote:Ian Warren wrote:Its from were I sit here drawing/painting , the aircraft are well above any ground limits, they would still be over the Uni/Jelly-park intersection/marker and still well within limits but ARBUSTED , I was out the airport one other time, wasn't even gusty , another two went around (separate flights) in a standard N/W and mild breeze, I Know and don't think its the pilots .. its the aircraft , a Virgin flew in directly without any hassle ... come to think I have not seen a Boeing in all its years doing go around's unless it was on a training sortie!
Ha the one is front of us was a Jet Connect 737, we were trying to figure out why he went around. Found out about 3 min later why
" Found out about 3 min later why" Judith Collins standing on the end off the runways ... I would have not aborted !
Re: NZDN Weather right now

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Fri Mar 11, 2016 7:15 pm
by Splitpin
I cant see that 29 in CHC (severe nor west conditions) is much different from Wellington in similar conditions .
I think you are being a bit naughty Ian . This Airbus vs Boeing thing is getting a bit tired
And for the record , i have seen a couple of 737's abort landings ( non training) on 29 at CHC ... one ANZ and one Virgin.... so i guess the "chicken shite" extends over both types.
AS I SAID ! , and, to keep it within your frame of reference ..I would rather be sitting behind a cautious "ARBUST" captain , than a gung ho Boeing jock (you stared it mate) ...sad , i cant believe i just dropped myself into this meaningless conversation.
Re: NZDN Weather right now

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Fri Mar 11, 2016 7:30 pm
by toprob
Good post, Marty.
Really, the weak link isn't the type of aircraft or the skills of the crew, it's the screaming passengers. Whereas a pilot might know he has the skill to land the plane, s/he might think twice about terrorizing the screamers in the back, and I'm sure the airline would appreciate not being sued and rubbished on Facebook.
Re: NZDN Weather right now

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Fri Mar 11, 2016 7:41 pm
by emfrat
If the weather was going to hand me a 15-min early arrival, I would take the opportunity to practice a go-around, or let my First Officer keep up her or his skills - beats stooging around in a racetrack

Re: NZDN Weather right now

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Fri Mar 11, 2016 7:44 pm
by Ian Warren
Splitpin wrote:I think you are being a bit naughty Ian . This Airbus vs Boeing thing is getting a bit tired
NAUGHTY I am ARBUSTED again .. Now were is my Boeing, one with a lineage .. the B-52 the 47 the 29 and course the Flying Fortress then add all the 'Classic's .. 737-200 for starters the 747 and the others .. I forgot to count

Re: NZDN Weather right now

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Fri Mar 11, 2016 7:50 pm
by Splitpin
Cheers Rob .... i really didnt want to wade into this , but .....
Im not an airline pilot , and could never have been one , but i have the utmost respect and confidence for those that are.
To see comments like "chicken shite" really bugs me ... bring on the chickens , and the rest is "shite".
Re: NZDN Weather right now

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Fri Mar 11, 2016 7:58 pm
by Ian Warren
Last time we will see you at KFC .. you have to be tough to go there ! SORRY SIR NO CHICKEN .. only mash and gravy.