A question for Real NZ Dunedin users

[toprob]

I'll put this here so more people see it, and shift it to my own forum when it's done its job.

Some people are reporting that they are not seeing the custom vegetation around NZDN, which seems to be because the autogen merger tool is not installing properly.

So two questions, really:

Does anyone see all the new trees ok?

Who else has problems?

EDIT: please let me know which sim you use, whatever your result.
ANOTHER EDIT: Please also say whether X86 or X64.

Here's what the autogen density should look like at NZDN:

[Ex ANZ Eng]

No problems with my setup Rob, its all there.

Cheers
Phil

[emfrat]

FSX with VLC, and the Godzone Tree Textures improvement.
I can see plenty of trees, windbreaks and so on, but I don't seem to have those along the riverbank, and nearby, to the E of NZDN. Taieri looks great.

[toprob]

FSX with VLC, and the Godzone Tree Textures improvement.
I can see plenty of trees, windbreaks and so on, but I don't seem to have those along the riverbank, and nearby, to the E of NZDN. Taieri looks great.

Yeah, yours is definitely broken. The tree at Taieri are not autogen, so everyone will seem them ok.

Some of the autogen trees are default, and everyone will see them too.

The bulk of the trees in my screenshot, around NZDN, are my custom definitions, and it is these that are causing the problem.

Which sim is this? I may have to get some more details at some stage, just to pin down where the problem is.

[emfrat]

FSX with VLC, and the Godzone Tree Textures improvement.
I can see plenty of trees, windbreaks and so on, but I don't seem to have those along the riverbank, and nearby, to the E of NZDN. Taieri looks great.

Yeah, yours is definitely broken. The tree at Taieri are not autogen, so everyone will seem them ok.

Some of the autogen trees are default, and everyone will see them too.

The bulk of the trees in my screenshot, around NZDN, are my custom definitions, and it is these that are causing the problem.

Which sim is this? I may have to get some more details at some stage, just to pin down where the problem is.

FSX+Acc

Hope this shot helps

[Ian Warren]

Here's what the autogen density should look like at NZDN:

That is a different view and looks bloody Great ! ... better get onto a result here, again got busy today.

[toprob]

Thanks for that, but the problem is during the VLC Libraries installation, and I can't think of anything you can check to help pinpoint this. I'm pretty sure that all the required files are installed, it's just that the AutogenConfigurationMerger tool isn't installing correctly.

If I have a few people who are happy to wait a couple of days, I may come up with a quick solution which may or may not work until I can find out exactly what is going on. it will involve running a tiny little prog which will have another go at installing ACMT, but with a lot of error-checking involved. One problem is that the ACMT installer doesn't give any feedback as to what it is doing, so I'd need to write some variables to a text file, to see where it goes wrong.

For the life of me, I can't reproduce this on my main system or the test system, which is why I'm beat at the moment.

I'll edit the first post, but can you also let me know X86 or X64?

EDIT: just saw your post, Ian, thanks, I think it would be a shame if people don't see it this way! Which is why I need to figure this fast.

[Ian Warren]

EDIT: just saw your post, Ian, thanks, I think it would be a shame if people don't see it this way! Which is why I need to figure this fast.

Visitor Just left D/loading now ... Thanks.

[emfrat]

Cheers, Rob - no hurry on this at all.

I use FSX+SP2+Acc in a Win7x64 environment.

Looking at my exe.xml, I see that SODE was added, but not a call for the AutogenConfigurationMerger.
Looking at my FS10 folder, I see the exe for the AutogenConfigurationMerger appears in two locations:

C:\FS10\Godzone\OtherInstallers\AutogenConfigurationMerger, timestamp 5/11/2016 1:52pm.
C:\FS10\VLC_Libraries, timestamp 5/11/2016 9:53am.

0953 is the first install. I had deactivated my existing NZDN scenery but there was a VLC Taieri scenery which I had forgotten about and I then had the old one overlaid on the new one. I fixed that, and took off from TI for DN, only to find there were a few odd default items and no tower or terminal. I then re-ran the installer, but told it not to update the scenery cfg. This made no difference, but when I looked at the Scenery Library to see if it might be a layering issue, I found Taieri there (position 14, I think) but no sign of NZDN. I then added NZDN manually and it all looked fine.

There may be some trees missing, but it is still a great scenery, and you will be more upset about those trees than I am.

ATB
MikeW

[russhart]

Definitely missing from my installation Rob. Using P3D and Win 10 64bit.

Russell

[NeilF]

Only appear to have default trees also. Win7 64bit.

Neil

[Ian Warren]

I now have install on both FSX and P3D only recently installed so installing or looking at the mo, trying to see why it is not picking up the library trees , this is an area that now looking to myself, its not a major issue but soon as I find what maybe it I'll rob a note and post here ... again been a little busy in the last couple of days.

[toprob]

Can anyone who has this problem try a wee experiment?
I thought that it might be some sort of issue with the installer calling different third party installers, as I'm not sure exactly how the third party installers work they might be temporarily locking some files during the process.
So I wonder if it helps running the VLC Libraries installer on its own.
The VLC Libraries installed is supplied with Dunedin, you can find it here:
Godzone\OtherInstallers\VLClibrariesV1.49
The location of the 'Godzone' folder will be wherever you chose to install Godzone scenery in Prepar3d v3, or in your simulator folder in other sims.
Let me know if you try this, and whether it helps.

Ian -- I do know exactly why the autogen doesn't show, it is related to the installation, so there is really little you can do to help, except retry the VLC Libraries installer as above!

[Ian Warren]

Only turning the PC on now, I'll check the VLC libraries and go from there.

[toprob]

Here's what you should see with a successful install of ACMT:



A couple of things, though -- you'll only see this once, the first time that ACMT is installed. Subsequent installs will simply edit the exe.xml of the chosen sim, and there will be no visible indication that it has actually done anything.
So not seeing this window either means that it didn't work at all, or it is already installed, or at least it has a registry entry...

if you've never seen this during the Real NZ Dunedin install, or ever, then please consider rerunning the VLC Libraries installer as detailed above. If you still don't see it, let me know!

Another point -- the FS Version should be greyed out, as this is locked to the sim you are installing the VLC Libraries to. So if you then install Dunedin to another sim, you won't see this window, but it should work...

[emfrat]

Well, 20 mins before Rob's post I was taking this screenie:



I deleted NZDN, NZTI, and VLC Libraries from the Scenery Library, then deleted those folders from FS10 before running the uninstaller to clear up any dregs.
I then reran the Multi Installer but did not let it update the SL. I then installed VLC Libraries v1.49. When I looked at the exe.xml, it was still dated 9/11/16, so I manually edited it to call the ACTM, using the existing SODE call as a template.
I started FSX to update the scenery library, and it warned me that ACMT was trying to update the xml, would I allow it? Would I declare the module safe? and then an advisory to restart FSX to make sure the changes happened.

[toprob]

Cheers, Emfrat, willow trees are a good sign!
So it sounds like ACMT installed, but didn't add the entry to exe.xml, which is still not a great result.
Did you see the ACMT window shown in my last post?

Sorry, wrong person earlier, don't know how that happened...

By the way, when you say you edited the exe.xml file, which AutogenConfigurationmerger.exe does it point to? it is possible that it didn't install at all, and you've used the installer location -- it would work, but not recommended, the actual install location is a lot more dependable, and I think might be the only way to get the ACMT registry entry.

[toprob]

Here's a new VLClibrariesInstall installer, which might make a difference. Let me know if it does or doesn't.

This is a beta, but brings it to version 1.50, I hope I don't run out of version numbers testing this before 2.00...

It includes two changes:

First, it slows down the whole process;
It includes a new ACMT installer, which expands the logging, which might help me figure out why it isn't working.

Please give this a go if you have the missing autogen problem, and haven't yet installed ACMT manually.
Download the new VLC Libraries installer here.

P.S. I would think that the final patch would include the ACMT installer only, so it should be a quick and easy fix. First, though, I need to get the make sure that I'm on the right track, hence the VLC Libraries installer above.

[towerguy]

hi
have tried the link several times but keeps telling me failed download
I have uninstalled and reinstalled several times but not getting the trees, just the photo terrain and generic trees.
I have taken some screen shots and will try to tidy them up and post but it may not be until tomorrow as I'm off for night shift shortly.
(might try and do it over night if it's quiet and nothing starts shaking again.
cheers

[NZ255]

Not sure if it's useful but p3d has Exe.xml files in the localappdata and ProgramData folders