Bugs, Issues And Annoyances, Tell us what's up Options

[Timmo]

This thread has been set up this thread so you can let us know of any issues that you may be having with the various components of VLC- As an ongoing project and given the complexity of FSX, it's possible that there are small errors or omissions that are affecting your experience of VLC. Some issues are simply due to the way FSX displays data (and so may not be able to be fixed). Some issues may be caused by limitations in the data itself (which could be fixed given enough community demand). Some issues may be caused by other addon packages or the interaction between them. However, all are important as we want to do our best to ensure that VLC gives you maximum enjoyment -So let us know on this thread and we will do our best to sort them out.

A lot of the initial issues with VLC V1.00 have been fixed in the V1.01 patch so, as a first step, please ensure that you have installed this patch (this step is only needed for those that purchased their copy of VLC before 20th December 2011) - See here for instructions for downloading the patch from the Windowlight store.


(Please note this thread will be getting edited and trimmed to remove discussion in diagnosing problems after we have found a fix/work around)

Known Issues to be fixed in the next patch:

* VLC Config tool doesn't switch off the 'veg_palm1.dds' texture due to missing definition in the config.xml file.


Known Issues fixed in the V1.01 patch:

* VLC Config tool doesn't display correctly when larger than defaults text sizes are used. This will be fixed in the upcoming patch but a replacement tool is available now on request. PM me for the link

*Two lakes around Glenorchy are the incorrect elevation (Fixed)

* DTM tiles don't merge well near Glenorchy (Fixed)

* Great Barrier Island is missing in the mesh. (Fixed)

* Various Airport Elevation issues. (Fixed where possible, ongoing airport development will fix)

* Gap in DTM near Napier (Fixed)

* Airport boundaries within the VLC data conflict with default data (Fixed)

Other issues (which aren't caused by VLC or can be fixed by the user)

Issue: Milford sound airport sits on a large plateau
Cause: The option to install the Milford Sound Fix was un-ticked when you installed VLC. This option provides a basic fix for Milford Sound which was incorrectly placed by Microsoft due to an errant default DTM in this area.
Fix: Either reinstall VLC and ensure the 'Fix Milford Sound' is ticked on OR download and install HardCorePawns/Creators Milford Sound X V3 (http://nzff.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=12730&pid=8266062&st=0&#entry8266062)

Issue: Milford Sound has strange elevations spikes around the airport or cut terrain/excluded water.
Cause: This is caused by conflicts between the VLC milford fix and HardCordPawns/Creators MilfordX. There should only be one version of Milford Sound installed by the user.
Fix:If you had previously installed HardCorePawn and Mike/Creators2003 Milford SoundX please uninstall it and install the new version (http://nzff.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=12730&pid=8266062&st=0&#entry8266062).

[toprob]

Yep I am running v2 of your scenery.
With your flattens or the VLC ones I get errors.

Do you have a screenshot?

I think you have to be careful with mixing and matching different bits of Milford. If you have any Milford Sound scenery installed, then you really shouldn't install the VLC fix until you have removed the previous scenery. The fix is designed for those who don't have any other scenery which fixes the elevation of Milford. You'd need to make sure that you remove ALL components of either Milford X or the VLC fix.

The VLC fix includes three files, the facilities file and flatten in Addon Scenery\Scenery, and the elevation switch in Scenery\World\Scenery.

The simplest way to remove the fix if you installed it when you didn't mean to is to uninstall and reinstall VLC with the fix unselected.

[russhart]

(FIXED IN V1.01 PATCH) Just noticed a couple of lakes that are not sitting at the correct level. One is just west of Glenorchy (Diamond Lake) and the other is east of Queenstown (Lake Hayes). Does anyone else show this or is it just me. I have completely removed Red Baron Mesh Topo & NZLC.

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[scon]

(CAUSED BY A CONFLICT BETWEEN DIFFERENT VERSIONS OF MILFORD SOUND AIRPORT. PLEASE ENSURE ONLY ONE VERSION IS USED AND IS SUITABLE FOR VLC) Here are the images of the issues I am having at Milford.





I have tried the following combinations

Milford Version 2 (no flattens) + VLC (with flattens)

uninstalled VLC, added Milford flattens, reinstalled VLC

Milford Version 2 (with flattens) + VLC (no flattens)

Both deliver exactly the same issue.



Regards, Scott

[Timmo]

Scon can you give a top down view of Milford with the problems please?
I seem to remember that the Milford fix released by Mike and ? included a flatten placed in Scenery/World/Scenery for users of the default mesh as well as flattens placed in the MilfordSoundX folder. The MilfordSoundX folder can be disabled using the normal scenery library but the additional flatten will need to be manually disabled.

A milford install should either be

Mikes Milford installed:
Addon Scenery/Scenery/MilfordSoundX/xxxxxx.bgl etc (with the cvxNZMF_Flattens_valleys... files disabled by renaming to .bak)
plus
Scenery/World/Scenery/Milford Sound NZMF_ARP.bgl

OR

In addon scenery/Scenery/NZMF_ADEX_VLC.BGL and NZMF_ADEX_VLC_CVX.bgl
plus
in Scenery/World/Scenery/NZMF_ADEX_VLC_ALT.BGL



And Thanks Russ for the lakes- These will be fixed in a patch

[russhart]

Yes, I think you are right, the lake level at Glenorchy seems to be a bit out.
By the way, Glenorchy is a great place to fly from in VLC -- quite stunning.
Russ, your textures seems different -- do you use a replacement texture set?

There shouldn't be any other textures for NZ showing but I am always worried that there are some leftover files in some of the scenery folders. The only other textures I have are those from FTX (switched off) and UTX/GEX (shouldn't affect NZ?).

Just did some checks in other parts of the SI and to me the textures seen at Glenorchy appear to be similar to what I am seeing elsewhere. The question now is "am I displaying VLC correctly?"

Toprob, I have posted another screenshot and would appreciate it if you could at some stage compare this to a similar shot with your settings.

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[toprob]

Here you go. Are you using REX real weather? The clouds are the same -- amazing.
The textures are definitely different...

[creator2003]

Ok ok i wont need to talk to Timmo about this ,anyway my findings on the milford sound v2 problem ,as i thought, remove the flattens and road fix bgl files out of the milford v2 /scenery folder ,do not put in any other files that the readme refers to in any other folders they are not needed with VLC as Tim says this is fixed, as with my fresh install of FSX and VLC shows ..
ill still remake the milford file download minus the files which cause some conflict to work with VLC

Next fault someone mentioned is of the christchurch Area being a rise somewhere ,ive just flown around this area completely and the only rise ive found is the main fsx NZCH airport which has a rise around the afcad about 5-10 meters ,though this would be expected with new mesh heights and new addon airports will address things like this in the future, unless Tim address this in a patch

its seems in the above shots to be the Gex textures showing which could be picking up by a world nz landclass file that was floating around last month ,which was later found to be pirated textures ,if you had this file it will be upsetting your install and wont work without issues until its removed ,i did try these myself in assorts of varations and mostly just messed my VLC install up with the conflicting landclass files

anyway looks like this is just small conflicts that are easy to fix by the user .
remove all meshes and landclass addons for NZ by uninstaller and deactivate them in the fsx library manager then install VLC and you should have a very good NZ to fly around without errors like me

cheers



Edit :plz refer to this post here if you are having problems with milford soundX v2 http://nzff.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=...p;#entry8266058

[russhart]

Toprob, Creator2003, thanks for that I now know there is an issue but what it is I am not sure. I haven't installed any other landclass or textures for NZ. Before installation of VLC I made sure that all the GEX (Europe and North America) original FSX files were restored. After VLC install I then re-installed the GEX textures so whether or not there is some interference here I don't know. It shouldn't be as GEX keep there files in its own folders but whether or not a file is put into the Addon Scenery Folder of the FSX Scenery folder that calls on the GEX files is unclear.

Just picked up an additional glitch in the same Glenorchy area. The attached shows a trench across the Dart River, which could be a leftover from the filming of Lord of the Rings

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[Timmo]

Russ- From your screen shots, it looks as if the GEX are written into the main texture directory rather than their own so they will replace all textures which we call with our landclass (they may have done it this way to avoid having to provide their own landclass file) If you enjoy those textures more than the default ones then there is no reason to turn them off (VLC custom textures will still show)- The main thing was they they were turned off when you installed

[russhart]

Russ- From your screen shots, it looks as if the GEX are written into the main texture directory rather than their own so they will replace all textures which we call with our landclass (they may have done it this way to avoid having to provide their own landclass file) If you enjoy those textures more than the default ones then there is no reason to turn them off (VLC custom textures will still show)- The main thing was they they were turned off when you installed

Timmo, you are bang on. I did some experimenting as the GEX manual did state that some textures and AGN's are likely to show up in other parts of the world (as opposed to Europe and North America). Based on this I re-installed the original FSX textures from the GEX backup and then flew around Glenorchy, Christchurch and Auckland. I now get exactly the same look as Toprob. At least I now have an option to have either showing in NZ.

[dbcunnz]

Flatten problems with VLC
Airports in a hole
Dargaville, Mercer, Opotiki, Te Anau, Waihi Beach, Waimate and waipukurau.

Example Daegaville and Mercer.




The others are with big dropoffs on an end and sides
Glentanner, Hokatika, Kaikohe, Karamea, Lake Station, Mt Cook, Murchison, Pukaki, Queenstown, Stratford, Taieri, Takaka, Tuamaranui, Tokoroa, Toupo, Turangi and Waiuru.

Examples Hokatika and Kaikohe